The new A6 unveils!
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Re: The new A6 unveils!
On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 09:24:27 -0500, "b22r" <b22r@erols.com> wrote:
>A pig dressed up in fancy clothing is still a pig. The front grill is FUGLY
>FUGLY FUGLY. Amazing to see how stupid car manufacturers can be! Poor
>pitiful Aud (WHAT WERE YOU THINKIN????)
On the other hand, a wolf dressed in grandma's clothes is still a
wolf.
I.e. Aftermarket designers will very quickly have modifications for
grills available for customers. In fact this grill just needs an
eyecatchers (because this one is ugly, yes).
It's IMO much easier making an ugly grill lok nicer than changing the
bum of a car. And the bum of the new A6 is nice.
I'm curious as to what the Avant will look like, because the current
one is really nice.
>My bet is that people will gravitate to the older models vs. this new FUGLY.
>Of course there maybe is the new VW?
There is no VW that can match an Audi as far as interior, comfort
functions and general appearance are concerned.
Regards
Wolfgang
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* reply to wolfgang dot pawlinetz at chello dot at *
>A pig dressed up in fancy clothing is still a pig. The front grill is FUGLY
>FUGLY FUGLY. Amazing to see how stupid car manufacturers can be! Poor
>pitiful Aud (WHAT WERE YOU THINKIN????)
On the other hand, a wolf dressed in grandma's clothes is still a
wolf.
I.e. Aftermarket designers will very quickly have modifications for
grills available for customers. In fact this grill just needs an
eyecatchers (because this one is ugly, yes).
It's IMO much easier making an ugly grill lok nicer than changing the
bum of a car. And the bum of the new A6 is nice.
I'm curious as to what the Avant will look like, because the current
one is really nice.
>My bet is that people will gravitate to the older models vs. this new FUGLY.
>Of course there maybe is the new VW?
There is no VW that can match an Audi as far as interior, comfort
functions and general appearance are concerned.
Regards
Wolfgang
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* Audi A6 Avant TDI *
* reply to wolfgang dot pawlinetz at chello dot at *
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Re: The new A6 unveils!
"Wolfgang Pawlinetz" <w.pawlinetz@a1.net> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 09:24:27 -0500, "b22r" <b22r@erols.com> wrote:
>
> >A pig dressed up in fancy clothing is still a pig. The front grill is
FUGLY
> >FUGLY FUGLY. Amazing to see how stupid car manufacturers can be! Poor
> >pitiful Aud (WHAT WERE YOU THINKIN????)
>
> On the other hand, a wolf dressed in grandma's clothes is still a
> wolf.
>
> I.e. Aftermarket designers will very quickly have modifications for
> grills available for customers. In fact this grill just needs an
> eyecatchers (because this one is ugly, yes).
After market kits won't work for Audi customers who want an understated car.
Anyway these kits usually reduce the resale value.
> It's IMO much easier making an ugly grill lok nicer than changing the
> bum of a car. And the bum of the new A6 is nice.
Those in the UK may remember the Ford Scorpio's stupid grin and how it
destroyed their large car business here. Well Audi should have learnt from
that. The Scorpio was rightly ridiclued by the British motoring press and
there are signs that they are doing the same to the new A6.
> I'm curious as to what the Avant will look like, because the current
> one is really nice.
I don't suppose the front will change.
> >My bet is that people will gravitate to the older models vs. this new
FUGLY.
> >Of course there maybe is the new VW?
>
> There is no VW that can match an Audi as far as interior, comfort
> functions and general appearance are concerned.
>
The current A6 Avant is as close to perfection as it gets.
Martin Basil
A6 Avant
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> > >My bet is that people will gravitate to the older models vs. this
new
> > >Of course there maybe is the new VW?
> > There is no VW that can match an Audi as far as interior, comfort
> > functions and general appearance are concerned.
> The current A6 Avant is as close to perfection as it gets.
Isnt VW going to use a Maserati-RWD-platform to fill the gap between the
Pheaton and the Passat??? And wouldnt that mean competition to the A6?
Edwin
A6-Limo-with-a-bum-he-likes
> > >My bet is that people will gravitate to the older models vs. this
new
> > >Of course there maybe is the new VW?
> > There is no VW that can match an Audi as far as interior, comfort
> > functions and general appearance are concerned.
> The current A6 Avant is as close to perfection as it gets.
Isnt VW going to use a Maserati-RWD-platform to fill the gap between the
Pheaton and the Passat??? And wouldnt that mean competition to the A6?
Edwin
A6-Limo-with-a-bum-he-likes
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Re: The new A6 unveils!
Well, Audi just removed the A6 from my short list.
Replacing my 1997 Mercedes E420 will one of the following:
2005 Lexus GS (all-wheel drive V6, or do I go for the V8?)
2005 Acura TL
2005 Infiniti M45 (or will it be 2006?)
BMW's 5-series is overpriced and ugly, and Mercedes' line-up no longer excites
me either.
I've seen roughly 50 photos of the new A6, and unless it's night-and-day
different (better) in person, I won't bother to even test-drive it.
Oh well.
Randy
Replacing my 1997 Mercedes E420 will one of the following:
2005 Lexus GS (all-wheel drive V6, or do I go for the V8?)
2005 Acura TL
2005 Infiniti M45 (or will it be 2006?)
BMW's 5-series is overpriced and ugly, and Mercedes' line-up no longer excites
me either.
I've seen roughly 50 photos of the new A6, and unless it's night-and-day
different (better) in person, I won't bother to even test-drive it.
Oh well.
Randy
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>Isnt VW going to use a Maserati-RWD-platform to fill the gap between the
>Pheaton and the Passat???
Yes. And between rumors of a 300Hp, 4Motion equipped Passat for $35k or less,
the new C1 concept (the RWD car), and the Pheaton, VW's plan seems less like
"expand our image" and more like "take business away from our sister company".
Sounds like cutting off your nose to spite your face to me.
>Pheaton and the Passat???
Yes. And between rumors of a 300Hp, 4Motion equipped Passat for $35k or less,
the new C1 concept (the RWD car), and the Pheaton, VW's plan seems less like
"expand our image" and more like "take business away from our sister company".
Sounds like cutting off your nose to spite your face to me.
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>2005 Lexus GS (all-wheel drive V6, or do I go for the V8?)
There is no AWD version of the GS. The only vehicle that Lexus sells with AWD
is the RX330. If you want AWD, you'll need to look at:
Audi A6 Quattro
MB E-class 4Matic
Infiniti G35x
BMW 3--Xi
>2005 Acura TL
We're looking at this car for my mother. It's not as good a sports sedan as
some of the competition, but if you're a more "relaxed" driver just looking for
a little extra performance, it's nice. If you wait long enough, the new RL
sedan will be out too.
>2005 Infiniti M45 (or will it be 2006?)
>
If you're talking about the next M45, it'll probably be a 2006. The current
model is a nice car, but it's really (IMHO) a muscle car wearing a tux. If you
want something stiff and quick to 60 without splurging on an E55 or RS6 than
it's a good choice.
>I've seen roughly 50 photos of the new A6, and unless it's night-and-day
>different (better) in person, I won't bother to even test-drive it.
I think it will be. I've seen some photos of it from a "standing" perspective
(as opposed to pictures that were taken by someone crouching in front of the
car) and it actually looked pretty cool. If you like the current body, the 2.7T
is a hell of a buy. With the "updated" 265Hp engine, even the Tiptronic version
can do 0-60 in like 6.1 seconds.
There is no AWD version of the GS. The only vehicle that Lexus sells with AWD
is the RX330. If you want AWD, you'll need to look at:
Audi A6 Quattro
MB E-class 4Matic
Infiniti G35x
BMW 3--Xi
>2005 Acura TL
We're looking at this car for my mother. It's not as good a sports sedan as
some of the competition, but if you're a more "relaxed" driver just looking for
a little extra performance, it's nice. If you wait long enough, the new RL
sedan will be out too.
>2005 Infiniti M45 (or will it be 2006?)
>
If you're talking about the next M45, it'll probably be a 2006. The current
model is a nice car, but it's really (IMHO) a muscle car wearing a tux. If you
want something stiff and quick to 60 without splurging on an E55 or RS6 than
it's a good choice.
>I've seen roughly 50 photos of the new A6, and unless it's night-and-day
>different (better) in person, I won't bother to even test-drive it.
I think it will be. I've seen some photos of it from a "standing" perspective
(as opposed to pictures that were taken by someone crouching in front of the
car) and it actually looked pretty cool. If you like the current body, the 2.7T
is a hell of a buy. With the "updated" 265Hp engine, even the Tiptronic version
can do 0-60 in like 6.1 seconds.
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"Steve Grauman" <oneactor1@aol.com> wrote in message
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> >Isnt VW going to use a Maserati-RWD-platform to fill the gap between the
> >Pheaton and the Passat???
>
> Yes. And between rumors of a 300Hp, 4Motion equipped Passat for $35k or
less,
> the new C1 concept (the RWD car), and the Pheaton, VW's plan seems less
like
> "expand our image" and more like "take business away from our sister
company".
> Sounds like cutting off your nose to spite your face to me.
It does seem crazy especially as the A8 is alloy and therefore much lighter
and is now available with the W12 engine. Anyway the Pharton looks like an
inflated Passat.
Martin
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Just a note on your note. I test drove the 2003 M-45,. which I thought was kind of ugly, but it drove fantastic,
certainly worth the price LOADED which was around $50,000
I was hoping they would bring the new M-45 which will be the almost exact coopy of the Fuga which they showed at the
Tokyo auto show, which, at least to me, is a beautiful car.
Just my 2 cents
On 25 Feb 2004 22:21:26 GMT, oneactor1@aol.com (Steve Grauman) wrote:
>>2005 Lexus GS (all-wheel drive V6, or do I go for the V8?)
>
>There is no AWD version of the GS. The only vehicle that Lexus sells with AWD
>is the RX330. If you want AWD, you'll need to look at:
>Audi A6 Quattro
>MB E-class 4Matic
>Infiniti G35x
>BMW 3--Xi
>
>>2005 Acura TL
>
>We're looking at this car for my mother. It's not as good a sports sedan as
>some of the competition, but if you're a more "relaxed" driver just looking for
>a little extra performance, it's nice. If you wait long enough, the new RL
>sedan will be out too.
>
>>2005 Infiniti M45 (or will it be 2006?)
>>
>
>If you're talking about the next M45, it'll probably be a 2006. The current
>model is a nice car, but it's really (IMHO) a muscle car wearing a tux. If you
>want something stiff and quick to 60 without splurging on an E55 or RS6 than
>it's a good choice.
>
>>I've seen roughly 50 photos of the new A6, and unless it's night-and-day
>>different (better) in person, I won't bother to even test-drive it.
>
>I think it will be. I've seen some photos of it from a "standing" perspective
>(as opposed to pictures that were taken by someone crouching in front of the
>car) and it actually looked pretty cool. If you like the current body, the 2.7T
>is a hell of a buy. With the "updated" 265Hp engine, even the Tiptronic version
>can do 0-60 in like 6.1 seconds.
certainly worth the price LOADED which was around $50,000
I was hoping they would bring the new M-45 which will be the almost exact coopy of the Fuga which they showed at the
Tokyo auto show, which, at least to me, is a beautiful car.
Just my 2 cents
On 25 Feb 2004 22:21:26 GMT, oneactor1@aol.com (Steve Grauman) wrote:
>>2005 Lexus GS (all-wheel drive V6, or do I go for the V8?)
>
>There is no AWD version of the GS. The only vehicle that Lexus sells with AWD
>is the RX330. If you want AWD, you'll need to look at:
>Audi A6 Quattro
>MB E-class 4Matic
>Infiniti G35x
>BMW 3--Xi
>
>>2005 Acura TL
>
>We're looking at this car for my mother. It's not as good a sports sedan as
>some of the competition, but if you're a more "relaxed" driver just looking for
>a little extra performance, it's nice. If you wait long enough, the new RL
>sedan will be out too.
>
>>2005 Infiniti M45 (or will it be 2006?)
>>
>
>If you're talking about the next M45, it'll probably be a 2006. The current
>model is a nice car, but it's really (IMHO) a muscle car wearing a tux. If you
>want something stiff and quick to 60 without splurging on an E55 or RS6 than
>it's a good choice.
>
>>I've seen roughly 50 photos of the new A6, and unless it's night-and-day
>>different (better) in person, I won't bother to even test-drive it.
>
>I think it will be. I've seen some photos of it from a "standing" perspective
>(as opposed to pictures that were taken by someone crouching in front of the
>car) and it actually looked pretty cool. If you like the current body, the 2.7T
>is a hell of a buy. With the "updated" 265Hp engine, even the Tiptronic version
>can do 0-60 in like 6.1 seconds.
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>It does seem crazy especially as the A8 is alloy and therefore much lighter
The Pheaton is mostly aluminum as well, in fact, it gets something like 75% of
it's parts from the A8.
>Anyway the Pharton looks like an
>inflated Passat.
I like the Pheaton, I think it's smart looking outside and gorgeous inside. But
I'd rather have an A8L than a Pheaton W8 and the Pheaton W12 is $93,000 a bit
much for a VW.
The Pheaton is mostly aluminum as well, in fact, it gets something like 75% of
it's parts from the A8.
>Anyway the Pharton looks like an
>inflated Passat.
I like the Pheaton, I think it's smart looking outside and gorgeous inside. But
I'd rather have an A8L than a Pheaton W8 and the Pheaton W12 is $93,000 a bit
much for a VW.
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"Randy S" <mikado95@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Well, Audi just removed the A6 from my short list.
> Replacing my 1997 Mercedes E420 will one of the following:
>
> 2005 Lexus GS (all-wheel drive V6, or do I go for the V8?)
> 2005 Acura TL
> 2005 Infiniti M45 (or will it be 2006?)
>
> BMW's 5-series is overpriced and ugly, and Mercedes' line-up no longer
excites
> me either.
> I've seen roughly 50 photos of the new A6, and unless it's night-and-day
> different (better) in person, I won't bother to even test-drive it.
>
> Oh well.
TBH, go and take a look. I haven't, but I'd reached the same decision with
the old-model BMW 3-series Compact.
Then I saw one.. and then bought one
It "kinda" helped that it was about GBP 3500 cheaper than a saloon of the
same performance ($6500). Took me a few seconds to even recognise it, in the
flesh, when I first saw it at Brussels airport.
OTOH, a bad case of the uglies can often hit the resale value..
--
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reflect the opinions of the highly-opinionated person expressing the opinion
in the first place. So there!
news:20040225112423.09437.00000403@mb-m12.aol.com...
> Well, Audi just removed the A6 from my short list.
> Replacing my 1997 Mercedes E420 will one of the following:
>
> 2005 Lexus GS (all-wheel drive V6, or do I go for the V8?)
> 2005 Acura TL
> 2005 Infiniti M45 (or will it be 2006?)
>
> BMW's 5-series is overpriced and ugly, and Mercedes' line-up no longer
excites
> me either.
> I've seen roughly 50 photos of the new A6, and unless it's night-and-day
> different (better) in person, I won't bother to even test-drive it.
>
> Oh well.
TBH, go and take a look. I haven't, but I'd reached the same decision with
the old-model BMW 3-series Compact.
Then I saw one.. and then bought one
It "kinda" helped that it was about GBP 3500 cheaper than a saloon of the
same performance ($6500). Took me a few seconds to even recognise it, in the
flesh, when I first saw it at Brussels airport.
OTOH, a bad case of the uglies can often hit the resale value..
--
Hairy One Kenobi
Disclaimer: the opinions expressed in this opinion do not necessarily
reflect the opinions of the highly-opinionated person expressing the opinion
in the first place. So there!