Keys
#31
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Re: Keys
On Wed, 03 Aug 2005 23:27:55 GMT, "Hairy One Kenobi" <abuse@[127.0.0.1]>
wrote:
> On the TT, one has (or "had" in my case..) a small plastic "wallet" key.
>
> It has an immobiliser chip - which means that you can start the car - but,
> in the UK it doesn't disable the alarm. "Thatcham" rules. Apparently.
We now have one vote for the parts department who also say there is a chip
inside to allow the key to start the car. I'll have to keep score
> The service key is marked with a sort of hammer symbol (refreshingly
> honest!), and will not open the glovebox or (allegedly) boot [trunk]. It
> lacks the groove of the normal keys (take a look..)
My car (allroad) did not come with any genuine service key (or a trunk!),
but I see some rebates running along the keys' edges which would make it
possible to make larger non-rebated keys operate say the door and ignition
but would not fit into the locks of something else - say the glove box.
Tony
wrote:
> On the TT, one has (or "had" in my case..) a small plastic "wallet" key.
>
> It has an immobiliser chip - which means that you can start the car - but,
> in the UK it doesn't disable the alarm. "Thatcham" rules. Apparently.
We now have one vote for the parts department who also say there is a chip
inside to allow the key to start the car. I'll have to keep score
> The service key is marked with a sort of hammer symbol (refreshingly
> honest!), and will not open the glovebox or (allegedly) boot [trunk]. It
> lacks the groove of the normal keys (take a look..)
My car (allroad) did not come with any genuine service key (or a trunk!),
but I see some rebates running along the keys' edges which would make it
possible to make larger non-rebated keys operate say the door and ignition
but would not fit into the locks of something else - say the glove box.
Tony
#32
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Re: Keys
On Thu, 04 Aug 2005 01:01:59 +0100, "Anthony R. Gold"
<not-for-mail@ahjg.co.uk> wrote:
>On Wed, 03 Aug 2005 23:27:55 GMT, "Hairy One Kenobi" <abuse@[127.0.0.1]>
>wrote:
>
>> On the TT, one has (or "had" in my case..) a small plastic "wallet" key.
>>
>> It has an immobiliser chip - which means that you can start the car - but,
>> in the UK it doesn't disable the alarm. "Thatcham" rules. Apparently.
>
>We now have one vote for the parts department who also say there is a chip
>inside to allow the key to start the car. I'll have to keep score
>
>> The service key is marked with a sort of hammer symbol (refreshingly
>> honest!), and will not open the glovebox or (allegedly) boot [trunk]. It
>> lacks the groove of the normal keys (take a look..)
>
>My car (allroad) did not come with any genuine service key (or a trunk!),
>but I see some rebates running along the keys' edges which would make it
>possible to make larger non-rebated keys operate say the door and ignition
>but would not fit into the locks of something else - say the glove box.
>
>Tony
It just occurred to me that the difference may be a North America (sans
immobilizer) vs Europe (with the immobilizer). The wallet key I was issued for
my NA B5 S4 is just a piece of plastic....
<not-for-mail@ahjg.co.uk> wrote:
>On Wed, 03 Aug 2005 23:27:55 GMT, "Hairy One Kenobi" <abuse@[127.0.0.1]>
>wrote:
>
>> On the TT, one has (or "had" in my case..) a small plastic "wallet" key.
>>
>> It has an immobiliser chip - which means that you can start the car - but,
>> in the UK it doesn't disable the alarm. "Thatcham" rules. Apparently.
>
>We now have one vote for the parts department who also say there is a chip
>inside to allow the key to start the car. I'll have to keep score
>
>> The service key is marked with a sort of hammer symbol (refreshingly
>> honest!), and will not open the glovebox or (allegedly) boot [trunk]. It
>> lacks the groove of the normal keys (take a look..)
>
>My car (allroad) did not come with any genuine service key (or a trunk!),
>but I see some rebates running along the keys' edges which would make it
>possible to make larger non-rebated keys operate say the door and ignition
>but would not fit into the locks of something else - say the glove box.
>
>Tony
It just occurred to me that the difference may be a North America (sans
immobilizer) vs Europe (with the immobilizer). The wallet key I was issued for
my NA B5 S4 is just a piece of plastic....
#33
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Re: Keys
On Thu, 04 Aug 2005 01:01:59 +0100, "Anthony R. Gold"
<not-for-mail@ahjg.co.uk> wrote:
>On Wed, 03 Aug 2005 23:27:55 GMT, "Hairy One Kenobi" <abuse@[127.0.0.1]>
>wrote:
>
>> On the TT, one has (or "had" in my case..) a small plastic "wallet" key.
>>
>> It has an immobiliser chip - which means that you can start the car - but,
>> in the UK it doesn't disable the alarm. "Thatcham" rules. Apparently.
>
>We now have one vote for the parts department who also say there is a chip
>inside to allow the key to start the car. I'll have to keep score
>
>> The service key is marked with a sort of hammer symbol (refreshingly
>> honest!), and will not open the glovebox or (allegedly) boot [trunk]. It
>> lacks the groove of the normal keys (take a look..)
>
>My car (allroad) did not come with any genuine service key (or a trunk!),
>but I see some rebates running along the keys' edges which would make it
>possible to make larger non-rebated keys operate say the door and ignition
>but would not fit into the locks of something else - say the glove box.
>
>Tony
It just occurred to me that the difference may be a North America (sans
immobilizer) vs Europe (with the immobilizer). The wallet key I was issued for
my NA B5 S4 is just a piece of plastic....
<not-for-mail@ahjg.co.uk> wrote:
>On Wed, 03 Aug 2005 23:27:55 GMT, "Hairy One Kenobi" <abuse@[127.0.0.1]>
>wrote:
>
>> On the TT, one has (or "had" in my case..) a small plastic "wallet" key.
>>
>> It has an immobiliser chip - which means that you can start the car - but,
>> in the UK it doesn't disable the alarm. "Thatcham" rules. Apparently.
>
>We now have one vote for the parts department who also say there is a chip
>inside to allow the key to start the car. I'll have to keep score
>
>> The service key is marked with a sort of hammer symbol (refreshingly
>> honest!), and will not open the glovebox or (allegedly) boot [trunk]. It
>> lacks the groove of the normal keys (take a look..)
>
>My car (allroad) did not come with any genuine service key (or a trunk!),
>but I see some rebates running along the keys' edges which would make it
>possible to make larger non-rebated keys operate say the door and ignition
>but would not fit into the locks of something else - say the glove box.
>
>Tony
It just occurred to me that the difference may be a North America (sans
immobilizer) vs Europe (with the immobilizer). The wallet key I was issued for
my NA B5 S4 is just a piece of plastic....
#34
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Re: Keys
On Thu, 04 Aug 2005 01:01:59 +0100, "Anthony R. Gold"
<not-for-mail@ahjg.co.uk> wrote:
>On Wed, 03 Aug 2005 23:27:55 GMT, "Hairy One Kenobi" <abuse@[127.0.0.1]>
>wrote:
>
>> On the TT, one has (or "had" in my case..) a small plastic "wallet" key.
>>
>> It has an immobiliser chip - which means that you can start the car - but,
>> in the UK it doesn't disable the alarm. "Thatcham" rules. Apparently.
>
>We now have one vote for the parts department who also say there is a chip
>inside to allow the key to start the car. I'll have to keep score
>
>> The service key is marked with a sort of hammer symbol (refreshingly
>> honest!), and will not open the glovebox or (allegedly) boot [trunk]. It
>> lacks the groove of the normal keys (take a look..)
>
>My car (allroad) did not come with any genuine service key (or a trunk!),
>but I see some rebates running along the keys' edges which would make it
>possible to make larger non-rebated keys operate say the door and ignition
>but would not fit into the locks of something else - say the glove box.
>
>Tony
It just occurred to me that the difference may be a North America (sans
immobilizer) vs Europe (with the immobilizer). The wallet key I was issued for
my NA B5 S4 is just a piece of plastic....
<not-for-mail@ahjg.co.uk> wrote:
>On Wed, 03 Aug 2005 23:27:55 GMT, "Hairy One Kenobi" <abuse@[127.0.0.1]>
>wrote:
>
>> On the TT, one has (or "had" in my case..) a small plastic "wallet" key.
>>
>> It has an immobiliser chip - which means that you can start the car - but,
>> in the UK it doesn't disable the alarm. "Thatcham" rules. Apparently.
>
>We now have one vote for the parts department who also say there is a chip
>inside to allow the key to start the car. I'll have to keep score
>
>> The service key is marked with a sort of hammer symbol (refreshingly
>> honest!), and will not open the glovebox or (allegedly) boot [trunk]. It
>> lacks the groove of the normal keys (take a look..)
>
>My car (allroad) did not come with any genuine service key (or a trunk!),
>but I see some rebates running along the keys' edges which would make it
>possible to make larger non-rebated keys operate say the door and ignition
>but would not fit into the locks of something else - say the glove box.
>
>Tony
It just occurred to me that the difference may be a North America (sans
immobilizer) vs Europe (with the immobilizer). The wallet key I was issued for
my NA B5 S4 is just a piece of plastic....
#35
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Re: Keys
"Hairy One Kenobi" <abuse@[127.0.0.1]> wrote in message
news:%pcIe.3586$0g7.324@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net...
> "Anthony R. Gold" <not-for-mail@ahjg.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:bsf1f11qvb6g82rng03sf6cbfm5vi2hla5@4ax.com...
>> A new Audi came with two kinds of keys, metal ones which fold into a
>> remote control fob and a plastic service key.
>>
>> Can someone explain the intended functionality of the plastic service
>> key?
>>
>> I find I can use the plastic key to unlock a vehicle which has its alarm
>> set and without sounding the alarm - but then the key will not start the
>> vehicle. But if the alarm has not been set, then the plastic key can
>> start the vehicle.
>>
>> Does my plastic key do everything correctly?
>>
>> Are there any electronic components (e.g. an RFI chip) in the key which
>> needs to be married to the vehicle or is its manufacture just one of
>> copying the pattern? Can extra plastic service keys be simply mailed to
>> me and not need to be fitted, installed or trained to the vehicle?
>
> On the TT, one has (or "had" in my case..) a small plastic "wallet" key.
>
> It has an immobiliser chip - which means that you can start the car - but,
> in the UK it doesn't disable the alarm. "Thatcham" rules. Apparently.
>
> For RoTW, AFAIK, it will disable the alarm/immobiliser and generally act
> as
> a "normal" key.
>
> The service key is marked with a sort of hammer symbol (refreshingly
> honest!), and will not open the glovebox or (allegedly) boot [trunk]. It
> lacks the groove of the normal keys (take a look..)
>
> HTH
>
> Hairy One Kenobi
>
> Disclaimer: the opinions expressed in this opinion do not necessarily
> reflect the opinions of the highly-opinionated person expressing the
> opinion
> in the first place. So there!
>
>
my service key depicts an adjustable spanner...........America its termed a
crescent wrench (I believe).
#36
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Re: Keys
"Hairy One Kenobi" <abuse@[127.0.0.1]> wrote in message
news:%pcIe.3586$0g7.324@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net...
> "Anthony R. Gold" <not-for-mail@ahjg.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:bsf1f11qvb6g82rng03sf6cbfm5vi2hla5@4ax.com...
>> A new Audi came with two kinds of keys, metal ones which fold into a
>> remote control fob and a plastic service key.
>>
>> Can someone explain the intended functionality of the plastic service
>> key?
>>
>> I find I can use the plastic key to unlock a vehicle which has its alarm
>> set and without sounding the alarm - but then the key will not start the
>> vehicle. But if the alarm has not been set, then the plastic key can
>> start the vehicle.
>>
>> Does my plastic key do everything correctly?
>>
>> Are there any electronic components (e.g. an RFI chip) in the key which
>> needs to be married to the vehicle or is its manufacture just one of
>> copying the pattern? Can extra plastic service keys be simply mailed to
>> me and not need to be fitted, installed or trained to the vehicle?
>
> On the TT, one has (or "had" in my case..) a small plastic "wallet" key.
>
> It has an immobiliser chip - which means that you can start the car - but,
> in the UK it doesn't disable the alarm. "Thatcham" rules. Apparently.
>
> For RoTW, AFAIK, it will disable the alarm/immobiliser and generally act
> as
> a "normal" key.
>
> The service key is marked with a sort of hammer symbol (refreshingly
> honest!), and will not open the glovebox or (allegedly) boot [trunk]. It
> lacks the groove of the normal keys (take a look..)
>
> HTH
>
> Hairy One Kenobi
>
> Disclaimer: the opinions expressed in this opinion do not necessarily
> reflect the opinions of the highly-opinionated person expressing the
> opinion
> in the first place. So there!
>
>
my service key depicts an adjustable spanner...........America its termed a
crescent wrench (I believe).
#37
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Re: Keys
"Hairy One Kenobi" <abuse@[127.0.0.1]> wrote in message
news:%pcIe.3586$0g7.324@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net...
> "Anthony R. Gold" <not-for-mail@ahjg.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:bsf1f11qvb6g82rng03sf6cbfm5vi2hla5@4ax.com...
>> A new Audi came with two kinds of keys, metal ones which fold into a
>> remote control fob and a plastic service key.
>>
>> Can someone explain the intended functionality of the plastic service
>> key?
>>
>> I find I can use the plastic key to unlock a vehicle which has its alarm
>> set and without sounding the alarm - but then the key will not start the
>> vehicle. But if the alarm has not been set, then the plastic key can
>> start the vehicle.
>>
>> Does my plastic key do everything correctly?
>>
>> Are there any electronic components (e.g. an RFI chip) in the key which
>> needs to be married to the vehicle or is its manufacture just one of
>> copying the pattern? Can extra plastic service keys be simply mailed to
>> me and not need to be fitted, installed or trained to the vehicle?
>
> On the TT, one has (or "had" in my case..) a small plastic "wallet" key.
>
> It has an immobiliser chip - which means that you can start the car - but,
> in the UK it doesn't disable the alarm. "Thatcham" rules. Apparently.
>
> For RoTW, AFAIK, it will disable the alarm/immobiliser and generally act
> as
> a "normal" key.
>
> The service key is marked with a sort of hammer symbol (refreshingly
> honest!), and will not open the glovebox or (allegedly) boot [trunk]. It
> lacks the groove of the normal keys (take a look..)
>
> HTH
>
> Hairy One Kenobi
>
> Disclaimer: the opinions expressed in this opinion do not necessarily
> reflect the opinions of the highly-opinionated person expressing the
> opinion
> in the first place. So there!
>
>
my service key depicts an adjustable spanner...........America its termed a
crescent wrench (I believe).