Guess What (follow-up)?
#61
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Re: Guess What (follow-up)?
Steve Sears wrote:
> JP,
> So were they replaced or not?
> Cheers!
> Steve Sears
http://groups.google.co.uk/groups?q=...ya.com&rnum=26
have a look
> JP,
> So were they replaced or not?
> Cheers!
> Steve Sears
http://groups.google.co.uk/groups?q=...ya.com&rnum=26
have a look
#62
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Re: Guess What (follow-up)?
In all probability they weren't and the lack of a sticker speaks volumes but
unfortunately as I had not yet become suspicious enough at the time, I never
really checked. Anyway, it is still much of the same thing now with the
lower arms, which, of course, they just found to be OK, and I bet they're
going to fall apart just as soon as the campaign is over. I mean these
people know very well what they're doing to boost their business and empty
our pockets, right?
"Steve Sears" <steve.sears@SHOESsoil-mat.on.ca> escribió en el mensaje
news:ITz9e.11088$Jg5.752313@news20.bellglobal.com. ..
> JP,
> So were they replaced or not?
> Cheers!
> Steve Sears
> 1987 Audi 5kTQ
> 1980 Audi 5k
> 1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes
> (SPAM Blocker NOTE: Remove SHOES to reply)
>
> "JP Roberts" <1234@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:d46bkn$i2e$1@news.ya.com...
>> They should have been replaced, but with these so called "campaigns", if
> the
>> dealer does happen to have the necessary time to check during a routinely
>> service, and I'm assuming they do, it still takes some "free play" or
>> whatever other sypmtoms for them to have the parts replaced. Now, if they
>> know these to be faulty I find that is only adding insult to injury as
> they
>> should all be replaced automatically in every single instance.
>>
>>
>> "Steve Sears" <steve.sears@SHOESsoil-mat.on.ca> escribió en el mensaje
>> news:W9w9e.10945$Jg5.711668@news20.bellglobal.com. ..
>> > JP,
>> > Didn't you say that the dealer found that they _were_ replaced a while
>> > back
>> > under the silent warranty programme - once their IT guys got their
>> > ducks
>> > in
>> > a line? - As with my other post, considering that ball joints are
>> > indeed
> a
>> > wear item, and do wear out on most cars, it is possible you could take
>> > your
>> > complaint to AoA if the lifespan of the replacements were less than
> most -
>> > at best, they'd cover some of the replacement cost (although it may be
>> > unlikely if the replacements were done at the independent garage with
>> > parts
>> > purchased through channels other than Audi (dunno if that's possible or
>> > not).
>> > Cheers!
>> > Steve Sears
>> > 1987 Audi 5kTQ
>> > 1980 Audi 5k
>> > 1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes
>> > (SPAM Blocker NOTE: Remove SHOES to reply)
>> >
>> > "JP Roberts" <1234@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> > news:d45p62$s4$1@news.ya.com...
>> >> I've long been having oil changes done at the independent. I think
> you're
>> >> getting confused here, since what we were discussing is the fact that
>> >> this
>> >> should have been covered under a faulty design silent guarantee by the
>> >> make - read dealer.
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
unfortunately as I had not yet become suspicious enough at the time, I never
really checked. Anyway, it is still much of the same thing now with the
lower arms, which, of course, they just found to be OK, and I bet they're
going to fall apart just as soon as the campaign is over. I mean these
people know very well what they're doing to boost their business and empty
our pockets, right?
"Steve Sears" <steve.sears@SHOESsoil-mat.on.ca> escribió en el mensaje
news:ITz9e.11088$Jg5.752313@news20.bellglobal.com. ..
> JP,
> So were they replaced or not?
> Cheers!
> Steve Sears
> 1987 Audi 5kTQ
> 1980 Audi 5k
> 1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes
> (SPAM Blocker NOTE: Remove SHOES to reply)
>
> "JP Roberts" <1234@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:d46bkn$i2e$1@news.ya.com...
>> They should have been replaced, but with these so called "campaigns", if
> the
>> dealer does happen to have the necessary time to check during a routinely
>> service, and I'm assuming they do, it still takes some "free play" or
>> whatever other sypmtoms for them to have the parts replaced. Now, if they
>> know these to be faulty I find that is only adding insult to injury as
> they
>> should all be replaced automatically in every single instance.
>>
>>
>> "Steve Sears" <steve.sears@SHOESsoil-mat.on.ca> escribió en el mensaje
>> news:W9w9e.10945$Jg5.711668@news20.bellglobal.com. ..
>> > JP,
>> > Didn't you say that the dealer found that they _were_ replaced a while
>> > back
>> > under the silent warranty programme - once their IT guys got their
>> > ducks
>> > in
>> > a line? - As with my other post, considering that ball joints are
>> > indeed
> a
>> > wear item, and do wear out on most cars, it is possible you could take
>> > your
>> > complaint to AoA if the lifespan of the replacements were less than
> most -
>> > at best, they'd cover some of the replacement cost (although it may be
>> > unlikely if the replacements were done at the independent garage with
>> > parts
>> > purchased through channels other than Audi (dunno if that's possible or
>> > not).
>> > Cheers!
>> > Steve Sears
>> > 1987 Audi 5kTQ
>> > 1980 Audi 5k
>> > 1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes
>> > (SPAM Blocker NOTE: Remove SHOES to reply)
>> >
>> > "JP Roberts" <1234@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> > news:d45p62$s4$1@news.ya.com...
>> >> I've long been having oil changes done at the independent. I think
> you're
>> >> getting confused here, since what we were discussing is the fact that
>> >> this
>> >> should have been covered under a faulty design silent guarantee by the
>> >> make - read dealer.
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
#63
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Re: Guess What (follow-up)?
In all probability they weren't and the lack of a sticker speaks volumes but
unfortunately as I had not yet become suspicious enough at the time, I never
really checked. Anyway, it is still much of the same thing now with the
lower arms, which, of course, they just found to be OK, and I bet they're
going to fall apart just as soon as the campaign is over. I mean these
people know very well what they're doing to boost their business and empty
our pockets, right?
"Steve Sears" <steve.sears@SHOESsoil-mat.on.ca> escribió en el mensaje
news:ITz9e.11088$Jg5.752313@news20.bellglobal.com. ..
> JP,
> So were they replaced or not?
> Cheers!
> Steve Sears
> 1987 Audi 5kTQ
> 1980 Audi 5k
> 1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes
> (SPAM Blocker NOTE: Remove SHOES to reply)
>
> "JP Roberts" <1234@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:d46bkn$i2e$1@news.ya.com...
>> They should have been replaced, but with these so called "campaigns", if
> the
>> dealer does happen to have the necessary time to check during a routinely
>> service, and I'm assuming they do, it still takes some "free play" or
>> whatever other sypmtoms for them to have the parts replaced. Now, if they
>> know these to be faulty I find that is only adding insult to injury as
> they
>> should all be replaced automatically in every single instance.
>>
>>
>> "Steve Sears" <steve.sears@SHOESsoil-mat.on.ca> escribió en el mensaje
>> news:W9w9e.10945$Jg5.711668@news20.bellglobal.com. ..
>> > JP,
>> > Didn't you say that the dealer found that they _were_ replaced a while
>> > back
>> > under the silent warranty programme - once their IT guys got their
>> > ducks
>> > in
>> > a line? - As with my other post, considering that ball joints are
>> > indeed
> a
>> > wear item, and do wear out on most cars, it is possible you could take
>> > your
>> > complaint to AoA if the lifespan of the replacements were less than
> most -
>> > at best, they'd cover some of the replacement cost (although it may be
>> > unlikely if the replacements were done at the independent garage with
>> > parts
>> > purchased through channels other than Audi (dunno if that's possible or
>> > not).
>> > Cheers!
>> > Steve Sears
>> > 1987 Audi 5kTQ
>> > 1980 Audi 5k
>> > 1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes
>> > (SPAM Blocker NOTE: Remove SHOES to reply)
>> >
>> > "JP Roberts" <1234@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> > news:d45p62$s4$1@news.ya.com...
>> >> I've long been having oil changes done at the independent. I think
> you're
>> >> getting confused here, since what we were discussing is the fact that
>> >> this
>> >> should have been covered under a faulty design silent guarantee by the
>> >> make - read dealer.
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
unfortunately as I had not yet become suspicious enough at the time, I never
really checked. Anyway, it is still much of the same thing now with the
lower arms, which, of course, they just found to be OK, and I bet they're
going to fall apart just as soon as the campaign is over. I mean these
people know very well what they're doing to boost their business and empty
our pockets, right?
"Steve Sears" <steve.sears@SHOESsoil-mat.on.ca> escribió en el mensaje
news:ITz9e.11088$Jg5.752313@news20.bellglobal.com. ..
> JP,
> So were they replaced or not?
> Cheers!
> Steve Sears
> 1987 Audi 5kTQ
> 1980 Audi 5k
> 1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes
> (SPAM Blocker NOTE: Remove SHOES to reply)
>
> "JP Roberts" <1234@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:d46bkn$i2e$1@news.ya.com...
>> They should have been replaced, but with these so called "campaigns", if
> the
>> dealer does happen to have the necessary time to check during a routinely
>> service, and I'm assuming they do, it still takes some "free play" or
>> whatever other sypmtoms for them to have the parts replaced. Now, if they
>> know these to be faulty I find that is only adding insult to injury as
> they
>> should all be replaced automatically in every single instance.
>>
>>
>> "Steve Sears" <steve.sears@SHOESsoil-mat.on.ca> escribió en el mensaje
>> news:W9w9e.10945$Jg5.711668@news20.bellglobal.com. ..
>> > JP,
>> > Didn't you say that the dealer found that they _were_ replaced a while
>> > back
>> > under the silent warranty programme - once their IT guys got their
>> > ducks
>> > in
>> > a line? - As with my other post, considering that ball joints are
>> > indeed
> a
>> > wear item, and do wear out on most cars, it is possible you could take
>> > your
>> > complaint to AoA if the lifespan of the replacements were less than
> most -
>> > at best, they'd cover some of the replacement cost (although it may be
>> > unlikely if the replacements were done at the independent garage with
>> > parts
>> > purchased through channels other than Audi (dunno if that's possible or
>> > not).
>> > Cheers!
>> > Steve Sears
>> > 1987 Audi 5kTQ
>> > 1980 Audi 5k
>> > 1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes
>> > (SPAM Blocker NOTE: Remove SHOES to reply)
>> >
>> > "JP Roberts" <1234@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> > news:d45p62$s4$1@news.ya.com...
>> >> I've long been having oil changes done at the independent. I think
> you're
>> >> getting confused here, since what we were discussing is the fact that
>> >> this
>> >> should have been covered under a faulty design silent guarantee by the
>> >> make - read dealer.
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
#64
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Re: Guess What (follow-up)?
In all probability they weren't and the lack of a sticker speaks volumes but
unfortunately as I had not yet become suspicious enough at the time, I never
really checked. Anyway, it is still much of the same thing now with the
lower arms, which, of course, they just found to be OK, and I bet they're
going to fall apart just as soon as the campaign is over. I mean these
people know very well what they're doing to boost their business and empty
our pockets, right?
"Steve Sears" <steve.sears@SHOESsoil-mat.on.ca> escribió en el mensaje
news:ITz9e.11088$Jg5.752313@news20.bellglobal.com. ..
> JP,
> So were they replaced or not?
> Cheers!
> Steve Sears
> 1987 Audi 5kTQ
> 1980 Audi 5k
> 1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes
> (SPAM Blocker NOTE: Remove SHOES to reply)
>
> "JP Roberts" <1234@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:d46bkn$i2e$1@news.ya.com...
>> They should have been replaced, but with these so called "campaigns", if
> the
>> dealer does happen to have the necessary time to check during a routinely
>> service, and I'm assuming they do, it still takes some "free play" or
>> whatever other sypmtoms for them to have the parts replaced. Now, if they
>> know these to be faulty I find that is only adding insult to injury as
> they
>> should all be replaced automatically in every single instance.
>>
>>
>> "Steve Sears" <steve.sears@SHOESsoil-mat.on.ca> escribió en el mensaje
>> news:W9w9e.10945$Jg5.711668@news20.bellglobal.com. ..
>> > JP,
>> > Didn't you say that the dealer found that they _were_ replaced a while
>> > back
>> > under the silent warranty programme - once their IT guys got their
>> > ducks
>> > in
>> > a line? - As with my other post, considering that ball joints are
>> > indeed
> a
>> > wear item, and do wear out on most cars, it is possible you could take
>> > your
>> > complaint to AoA if the lifespan of the replacements were less than
> most -
>> > at best, they'd cover some of the replacement cost (although it may be
>> > unlikely if the replacements were done at the independent garage with
>> > parts
>> > purchased through channels other than Audi (dunno if that's possible or
>> > not).
>> > Cheers!
>> > Steve Sears
>> > 1987 Audi 5kTQ
>> > 1980 Audi 5k
>> > 1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes
>> > (SPAM Blocker NOTE: Remove SHOES to reply)
>> >
>> > "JP Roberts" <1234@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> > news:d45p62$s4$1@news.ya.com...
>> >> I've long been having oil changes done at the independent. I think
> you're
>> >> getting confused here, since what we were discussing is the fact that
>> >> this
>> >> should have been covered under a faulty design silent guarantee by the
>> >> make - read dealer.
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
unfortunately as I had not yet become suspicious enough at the time, I never
really checked. Anyway, it is still much of the same thing now with the
lower arms, which, of course, they just found to be OK, and I bet they're
going to fall apart just as soon as the campaign is over. I mean these
people know very well what they're doing to boost their business and empty
our pockets, right?
"Steve Sears" <steve.sears@SHOESsoil-mat.on.ca> escribió en el mensaje
news:ITz9e.11088$Jg5.752313@news20.bellglobal.com. ..
> JP,
> So were they replaced or not?
> Cheers!
> Steve Sears
> 1987 Audi 5kTQ
> 1980 Audi 5k
> 1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes
> (SPAM Blocker NOTE: Remove SHOES to reply)
>
> "JP Roberts" <1234@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:d46bkn$i2e$1@news.ya.com...
>> They should have been replaced, but with these so called "campaigns", if
> the
>> dealer does happen to have the necessary time to check during a routinely
>> service, and I'm assuming they do, it still takes some "free play" or
>> whatever other sypmtoms for them to have the parts replaced. Now, if they
>> know these to be faulty I find that is only adding insult to injury as
> they
>> should all be replaced automatically in every single instance.
>>
>>
>> "Steve Sears" <steve.sears@SHOESsoil-mat.on.ca> escribió en el mensaje
>> news:W9w9e.10945$Jg5.711668@news20.bellglobal.com. ..
>> > JP,
>> > Didn't you say that the dealer found that they _were_ replaced a while
>> > back
>> > under the silent warranty programme - once their IT guys got their
>> > ducks
>> > in
>> > a line? - As with my other post, considering that ball joints are
>> > indeed
> a
>> > wear item, and do wear out on most cars, it is possible you could take
>> > your
>> > complaint to AoA if the lifespan of the replacements were less than
> most -
>> > at best, they'd cover some of the replacement cost (although it may be
>> > unlikely if the replacements were done at the independent garage with
>> > parts
>> > purchased through channels other than Audi (dunno if that's possible or
>> > not).
>> > Cheers!
>> > Steve Sears
>> > 1987 Audi 5kTQ
>> > 1980 Audi 5k
>> > 1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes
>> > (SPAM Blocker NOTE: Remove SHOES to reply)
>> >
>> > "JP Roberts" <1234@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> > news:d45p62$s4$1@news.ya.com...
>> >> I've long been having oil changes done at the independent. I think
> you're
>> >> getting confused here, since what we were discussing is the fact that
>> >> this
>> >> should have been covered under a faulty design silent guarantee by the
>> >> make - read dealer.
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
#65
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Re: Guess What (follow-up)?
> Not only Audi.
Can you provide any links proving that any other presumably "serious" makes
have had problems with suspension arms?
>>To give you a further example, my brother-in-law had to drop
>>his car at the dealer's three times for three sucessive but differently
>>and
>>ill-timed coilpack failures. This is something that you will never see
>>when
>>a Japanese make is involved,
>
> Seen that e.g. on Hondas and Toyotas, too
Again I'll appreciate any links you can provide in that direction, as the
only things I seem to have read about Honda was that they were by far much
more reliable than any German makes, and every owner seemed to be more or
less pretty happy about their Hondas. And I know Audis look better but the
type R is a hell of a car performance wise and with such a high-revving
engine, this should last no longer than a couple of hundred miles, if the
parts in this engine were of a similar standard to that of VW suspension rod
ends.
Can you provide any links proving that any other presumably "serious" makes
have had problems with suspension arms?
>>To give you a further example, my brother-in-law had to drop
>>his car at the dealer's three times for three sucessive but differently
>>and
>>ill-timed coilpack failures. This is something that you will never see
>>when
>>a Japanese make is involved,
>
> Seen that e.g. on Hondas and Toyotas, too
Again I'll appreciate any links you can provide in that direction, as the
only things I seem to have read about Honda was that they were by far much
more reliable than any German makes, and every owner seemed to be more or
less pretty happy about their Hondas. And I know Audis look better but the
type R is a hell of a car performance wise and with such a high-revving
engine, this should last no longer than a couple of hundred miles, if the
parts in this engine were of a similar standard to that of VW suspension rod
ends.
#66
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Re: Guess What (follow-up)?
> Not only Audi.
Can you provide any links proving that any other presumably "serious" makes
have had problems with suspension arms?
>>To give you a further example, my brother-in-law had to drop
>>his car at the dealer's three times for three sucessive but differently
>>and
>>ill-timed coilpack failures. This is something that you will never see
>>when
>>a Japanese make is involved,
>
> Seen that e.g. on Hondas and Toyotas, too
Again I'll appreciate any links you can provide in that direction, as the
only things I seem to have read about Honda was that they were by far much
more reliable than any German makes, and every owner seemed to be more or
less pretty happy about their Hondas. And I know Audis look better but the
type R is a hell of a car performance wise and with such a high-revving
engine, this should last no longer than a couple of hundred miles, if the
parts in this engine were of a similar standard to that of VW suspension rod
ends.
Can you provide any links proving that any other presumably "serious" makes
have had problems with suspension arms?
>>To give you a further example, my brother-in-law had to drop
>>his car at the dealer's three times for three sucessive but differently
>>and
>>ill-timed coilpack failures. This is something that you will never see
>>when
>>a Japanese make is involved,
>
> Seen that e.g. on Hondas and Toyotas, too
Again I'll appreciate any links you can provide in that direction, as the
only things I seem to have read about Honda was that they were by far much
more reliable than any German makes, and every owner seemed to be more or
less pretty happy about their Hondas. And I know Audis look better but the
type R is a hell of a car performance wise and with such a high-revving
engine, this should last no longer than a couple of hundred miles, if the
parts in this engine were of a similar standard to that of VW suspension rod
ends.
#67
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Posts: n/a
Re: Guess What (follow-up)?
> Not only Audi.
Can you provide any links proving that any other presumably "serious" makes
have had problems with suspension arms?
>>To give you a further example, my brother-in-law had to drop
>>his car at the dealer's three times for three sucessive but differently
>>and
>>ill-timed coilpack failures. This is something that you will never see
>>when
>>a Japanese make is involved,
>
> Seen that e.g. on Hondas and Toyotas, too
Again I'll appreciate any links you can provide in that direction, as the
only things I seem to have read about Honda was that they were by far much
more reliable than any German makes, and every owner seemed to be more or
less pretty happy about their Hondas. And I know Audis look better but the
type R is a hell of a car performance wise and with such a high-revving
engine, this should last no longer than a couple of hundred miles, if the
parts in this engine were of a similar standard to that of VW suspension rod
ends.
Can you provide any links proving that any other presumably "serious" makes
have had problems with suspension arms?
>>To give you a further example, my brother-in-law had to drop
>>his car at the dealer's three times for three sucessive but differently
>>and
>>ill-timed coilpack failures. This is something that you will never see
>>when
>>a Japanese make is involved,
>
> Seen that e.g. on Hondas and Toyotas, too
Again I'll appreciate any links you can provide in that direction, as the
only things I seem to have read about Honda was that they were by far much
more reliable than any German makes, and every owner seemed to be more or
less pretty happy about their Hondas. And I know Audis look better but the
type R is a hell of a car performance wise and with such a high-revving
engine, this should last no longer than a couple of hundred miles, if the
parts in this engine were of a similar standard to that of VW suspension rod
ends.