Engine Swap A4 2.8L to S4 2.7L bi-turbo
#31
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Re: Engine Swap A4 2.8L to S4 2.7L bi-turbo
The Allroad is a different case, it was designed to combine most of the
best elements of Audi's sports and luxury sedans into a vehicle that
would also have minimal off road ability. It's added heft over the A6
Avant (already fairly heavy) somewhat neccesitated the use of the 2.7T
as the base engine. Moreover, it's standard adjustable air suspension
provided it the ability to handle at near-S4 Avant levels when set to
"sport".
If the only point in performing this swap would be to get some added
power from the vehicle, then using PES's supercharger kit is still a
more cost effective and simple means to the same end, you can simply
opt not to perform the additional suspension, braking or wheel/tire
upgrades.
Of course, you could also opt to try and find one of the few 6-speed
equipped W8 Passats that made it into North America, it'll offer a nice
boost in performance over the 2.8 A4 at a reasonable price and without
the hassle of an engine swap.
Ronny wrote:
> "Filmophile" <Filmophilia@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:1152084235.355343.28720@v61g2000cwv.googlegro ups.com...
> > The PES G3 supercharger for the 2.8 litre V6 increases output to 295 Hp
> > and 265 Ft. Lbs. when mated to upgraded intake and exhuast systems and
> > runing 91 octane gas. Compare that to 250 Hp and 255 Ft. Lbs. for North
> > American spec S4s, which have longer gearing - the accleration should
> > be very similar and I wouldn't discount the possibility of it being
> > quicker than the S4.
> >
> > As for handling, an 18" wheel package with high performance tires and
> > an upgrade to an H&R cup kit with front and rear anti-roll bars should
> > make the A4 easily competant to run with the S4.
> >
> > Lastly, although I know the original poster was asking specifically
> > about an engine swap, the 2.7T engine swap is fairly pointless without
> > also adding the other upgraded parts.
> >
>
> Why?
>
> The 2.7 twin turbo is also fitted to the Allroad which does not come with
> all the (sports) upgrades like the S4 does, the 2.8V6 top speed is only
> slighly shorter than the speed limited 2.7t.
>
> Unless you are going to track the A4 then a straight swap should be a nice
> challenge, and it has been done to passats I think even a golf has the
> engine.
>
> But it can be done, and has been done, it will cost alot though
best elements of Audi's sports and luxury sedans into a vehicle that
would also have minimal off road ability. It's added heft over the A6
Avant (already fairly heavy) somewhat neccesitated the use of the 2.7T
as the base engine. Moreover, it's standard adjustable air suspension
provided it the ability to handle at near-S4 Avant levels when set to
"sport".
If the only point in performing this swap would be to get some added
power from the vehicle, then using PES's supercharger kit is still a
more cost effective and simple means to the same end, you can simply
opt not to perform the additional suspension, braking or wheel/tire
upgrades.
Of course, you could also opt to try and find one of the few 6-speed
equipped W8 Passats that made it into North America, it'll offer a nice
boost in performance over the 2.8 A4 at a reasonable price and without
the hassle of an engine swap.
Ronny wrote:
> "Filmophile" <Filmophilia@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:1152084235.355343.28720@v61g2000cwv.googlegro ups.com...
> > The PES G3 supercharger for the 2.8 litre V6 increases output to 295 Hp
> > and 265 Ft. Lbs. when mated to upgraded intake and exhuast systems and
> > runing 91 octane gas. Compare that to 250 Hp and 255 Ft. Lbs. for North
> > American spec S4s, which have longer gearing - the accleration should
> > be very similar and I wouldn't discount the possibility of it being
> > quicker than the S4.
> >
> > As for handling, an 18" wheel package with high performance tires and
> > an upgrade to an H&R cup kit with front and rear anti-roll bars should
> > make the A4 easily competant to run with the S4.
> >
> > Lastly, although I know the original poster was asking specifically
> > about an engine swap, the 2.7T engine swap is fairly pointless without
> > also adding the other upgraded parts.
> >
>
> Why?
>
> The 2.7 twin turbo is also fitted to the Allroad which does not come with
> all the (sports) upgrades like the S4 does, the 2.8V6 top speed is only
> slighly shorter than the speed limited 2.7t.
>
> Unless you are going to track the A4 then a straight swap should be a nice
> challenge, and it has been done to passats I think even a golf has the
> engine.
>
> But it can be done, and has been done, it will cost alot though
#32
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Re: Engine Swap A4 2.8L to S4 2.7L bi-turbo
The Allroad is a different case, it was designed to combine most of the
best elements of Audi's sports and luxury sedans into a vehicle that
would also have minimal off road ability. It's added heft over the A6
Avant (already fairly heavy) somewhat neccesitated the use of the 2.7T
as the base engine. Moreover, it's standard adjustable air suspension
provided it the ability to handle at near-S4 Avant levels when set to
"sport".
If the only point in performing this swap would be to get some added
power from the vehicle, then using PES's supercharger kit is still a
more cost effective and simple means to the same end, you can simply
opt not to perform the additional suspension, braking or wheel/tire
upgrades.
Of course, you could also opt to try and find one of the few 6-speed
equipped W8 Passats that made it into North America, it'll offer a nice
boost in performance over the 2.8 A4 at a reasonable price and without
the hassle of an engine swap.
Ronny wrote:
> "Filmophile" <Filmophilia@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:1152084235.355343.28720@v61g2000cwv.googlegro ups.com...
> > The PES G3 supercharger for the 2.8 litre V6 increases output to 295 Hp
> > and 265 Ft. Lbs. when mated to upgraded intake and exhuast systems and
> > runing 91 octane gas. Compare that to 250 Hp and 255 Ft. Lbs. for North
> > American spec S4s, which have longer gearing - the accleration should
> > be very similar and I wouldn't discount the possibility of it being
> > quicker than the S4.
> >
> > As for handling, an 18" wheel package with high performance tires and
> > an upgrade to an H&R cup kit with front and rear anti-roll bars should
> > make the A4 easily competant to run with the S4.
> >
> > Lastly, although I know the original poster was asking specifically
> > about an engine swap, the 2.7T engine swap is fairly pointless without
> > also adding the other upgraded parts.
> >
>
> Why?
>
> The 2.7 twin turbo is also fitted to the Allroad which does not come with
> all the (sports) upgrades like the S4 does, the 2.8V6 top speed is only
> slighly shorter than the speed limited 2.7t.
>
> Unless you are going to track the A4 then a straight swap should be a nice
> challenge, and it has been done to passats I think even a golf has the
> engine.
>
> But it can be done, and has been done, it will cost alot though
best elements of Audi's sports and luxury sedans into a vehicle that
would also have minimal off road ability. It's added heft over the A6
Avant (already fairly heavy) somewhat neccesitated the use of the 2.7T
as the base engine. Moreover, it's standard adjustable air suspension
provided it the ability to handle at near-S4 Avant levels when set to
"sport".
If the only point in performing this swap would be to get some added
power from the vehicle, then using PES's supercharger kit is still a
more cost effective and simple means to the same end, you can simply
opt not to perform the additional suspension, braking or wheel/tire
upgrades.
Of course, you could also opt to try and find one of the few 6-speed
equipped W8 Passats that made it into North America, it'll offer a nice
boost in performance over the 2.8 A4 at a reasonable price and without
the hassle of an engine swap.
Ronny wrote:
> "Filmophile" <Filmophilia@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:1152084235.355343.28720@v61g2000cwv.googlegro ups.com...
> > The PES G3 supercharger for the 2.8 litre V6 increases output to 295 Hp
> > and 265 Ft. Lbs. when mated to upgraded intake and exhuast systems and
> > runing 91 octane gas. Compare that to 250 Hp and 255 Ft. Lbs. for North
> > American spec S4s, which have longer gearing - the accleration should
> > be very similar and I wouldn't discount the possibility of it being
> > quicker than the S4.
> >
> > As for handling, an 18" wheel package with high performance tires and
> > an upgrade to an H&R cup kit with front and rear anti-roll bars should
> > make the A4 easily competant to run with the S4.
> >
> > Lastly, although I know the original poster was asking specifically
> > about an engine swap, the 2.7T engine swap is fairly pointless without
> > also adding the other upgraded parts.
> >
>
> Why?
>
> The 2.7 twin turbo is also fitted to the Allroad which does not come with
> all the (sports) upgrades like the S4 does, the 2.8V6 top speed is only
> slighly shorter than the speed limited 2.7t.
>
> Unless you are going to track the A4 then a straight swap should be a nice
> challenge, and it has been done to passats I think even a golf has the
> engine.
>
> But it can be done, and has been done, it will cost alot though
#33
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Re: Engine Swap A4 2.8L to S4 2.7L bi-turbo
The Allroad is a different case, it was designed to combine most of the
best elements of Audi's sports and luxury sedans into a vehicle that
would also have minimal off road ability. It's added heft over the A6
Avant (already fairly heavy) somewhat neccesitated the use of the 2.7T
as the base engine. Moreover, it's standard adjustable air suspension
provided it the ability to handle at near-S4 Avant levels when set to
"sport".
If the only point in performing this swap would be to get some added
power from the vehicle, then using PES's supercharger kit is still a
more cost effective and simple means to the same end, you can simply
opt not to perform the additional suspension, braking or wheel/tire
upgrades.
Of course, you could also opt to try and find one of the few 6-speed
equipped W8 Passats that made it into North America, it'll offer a nice
boost in performance over the 2.8 A4 at a reasonable price and without
the hassle of an engine swap.
Ronny wrote:
> "Filmophile" <Filmophilia@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:1152084235.355343.28720@v61g2000cwv.googlegro ups.com...
> > The PES G3 supercharger for the 2.8 litre V6 increases output to 295 Hp
> > and 265 Ft. Lbs. when mated to upgraded intake and exhuast systems and
> > runing 91 octane gas. Compare that to 250 Hp and 255 Ft. Lbs. for North
> > American spec S4s, which have longer gearing - the accleration should
> > be very similar and I wouldn't discount the possibility of it being
> > quicker than the S4.
> >
> > As for handling, an 18" wheel package with high performance tires and
> > an upgrade to an H&R cup kit with front and rear anti-roll bars should
> > make the A4 easily competant to run with the S4.
> >
> > Lastly, although I know the original poster was asking specifically
> > about an engine swap, the 2.7T engine swap is fairly pointless without
> > also adding the other upgraded parts.
> >
>
> Why?
>
> The 2.7 twin turbo is also fitted to the Allroad which does not come with
> all the (sports) upgrades like the S4 does, the 2.8V6 top speed is only
> slighly shorter than the speed limited 2.7t.
>
> Unless you are going to track the A4 then a straight swap should be a nice
> challenge, and it has been done to passats I think even a golf has the
> engine.
>
> But it can be done, and has been done, it will cost alot though
best elements of Audi's sports and luxury sedans into a vehicle that
would also have minimal off road ability. It's added heft over the A6
Avant (already fairly heavy) somewhat neccesitated the use of the 2.7T
as the base engine. Moreover, it's standard adjustable air suspension
provided it the ability to handle at near-S4 Avant levels when set to
"sport".
If the only point in performing this swap would be to get some added
power from the vehicle, then using PES's supercharger kit is still a
more cost effective and simple means to the same end, you can simply
opt not to perform the additional suspension, braking or wheel/tire
upgrades.
Of course, you could also opt to try and find one of the few 6-speed
equipped W8 Passats that made it into North America, it'll offer a nice
boost in performance over the 2.8 A4 at a reasonable price and without
the hassle of an engine swap.
Ronny wrote:
> "Filmophile" <Filmophilia@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:1152084235.355343.28720@v61g2000cwv.googlegro ups.com...
> > The PES G3 supercharger for the 2.8 litre V6 increases output to 295 Hp
> > and 265 Ft. Lbs. when mated to upgraded intake and exhuast systems and
> > runing 91 octane gas. Compare that to 250 Hp and 255 Ft. Lbs. for North
> > American spec S4s, which have longer gearing - the accleration should
> > be very similar and I wouldn't discount the possibility of it being
> > quicker than the S4.
> >
> > As for handling, an 18" wheel package with high performance tires and
> > an upgrade to an H&R cup kit with front and rear anti-roll bars should
> > make the A4 easily competant to run with the S4.
> >
> > Lastly, although I know the original poster was asking specifically
> > about an engine swap, the 2.7T engine swap is fairly pointless without
> > also adding the other upgraded parts.
> >
>
> Why?
>
> The 2.7 twin turbo is also fitted to the Allroad which does not come with
> all the (sports) upgrades like the S4 does, the 2.8V6 top speed is only
> slighly shorter than the speed limited 2.7t.
>
> Unless you are going to track the A4 then a straight swap should be a nice
> challenge, and it has been done to passats I think even a golf has the
> engine.
>
> But it can be done, and has been done, it will cost alot though
#34
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Re: Engine Swap A4 2.8L to S4 2.7L bi-turbo
This isn't the first time this guy has asked about this in a group, he
has asked the same question (and gotten basically the same answers) in
a Yahoo group as well. He never responds to any posts made back to his
question.
The key here is, 'can I do it cheaply'? So, he's looking to do some
half-assed 'conversion' with a bunch of parts, on the cheap, with
probably no other intelligent upgrades like suspension, brakes, etc.
Dan D
'04 A4 1.8Tq MT-6
Central NJ USA
has asked the same question (and gotten basically the same answers) in
a Yahoo group as well. He never responds to any posts made back to his
question.
The key here is, 'can I do it cheaply'? So, he's looking to do some
half-assed 'conversion' with a bunch of parts, on the cheap, with
probably no other intelligent upgrades like suspension, brakes, etc.
Dan D
'04 A4 1.8Tq MT-6
Central NJ USA
#35
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Engine Swap A4 2.8L to S4 2.7L bi-turbo
This isn't the first time this guy has asked about this in a group, he
has asked the same question (and gotten basically the same answers) in
a Yahoo group as well. He never responds to any posts made back to his
question.
The key here is, 'can I do it cheaply'? So, he's looking to do some
half-assed 'conversion' with a bunch of parts, on the cheap, with
probably no other intelligent upgrades like suspension, brakes, etc.
Dan D
'04 A4 1.8Tq MT-6
Central NJ USA
has asked the same question (and gotten basically the same answers) in
a Yahoo group as well. He never responds to any posts made back to his
question.
The key here is, 'can I do it cheaply'? So, he's looking to do some
half-assed 'conversion' with a bunch of parts, on the cheap, with
probably no other intelligent upgrades like suspension, brakes, etc.
Dan D
'04 A4 1.8Tq MT-6
Central NJ USA
#36
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Engine Swap A4 2.8L to S4 2.7L bi-turbo
This isn't the first time this guy has asked about this in a group, he
has asked the same question (and gotten basically the same answers) in
a Yahoo group as well. He never responds to any posts made back to his
question.
The key here is, 'can I do it cheaply'? So, he's looking to do some
half-assed 'conversion' with a bunch of parts, on the cheap, with
probably no other intelligent upgrades like suspension, brakes, etc.
Dan D
'04 A4 1.8Tq MT-6
Central NJ USA
has asked the same question (and gotten basically the same answers) in
a Yahoo group as well. He never responds to any posts made back to his
question.
The key here is, 'can I do it cheaply'? So, he's looking to do some
half-assed 'conversion' with a bunch of parts, on the cheap, with
probably no other intelligent upgrades like suspension, brakes, etc.
Dan D
'04 A4 1.8Tq MT-6
Central NJ USA
#37
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Posts: n/a
Re: Engine Swap A4 2.8L to S4 2.7L bi-turbo
This isn't the first time this guy has asked about this in a group, he
has asked the same question (and gotten basically the same answers) in
a Yahoo group as well. He never responds to any posts made back to his
question.
The key here is, 'can I do it cheaply'? So, he's looking to do some
half-assed 'conversion' with a bunch of parts, on the cheap, with
probably no other intelligent upgrades like suspension, brakes, etc.
Dan D
'04 A4 1.8Tq MT-6
Central NJ USA
has asked the same question (and gotten basically the same answers) in
a Yahoo group as well. He never responds to any posts made back to his
question.
The key here is, 'can I do it cheaply'? So, he's looking to do some
half-assed 'conversion' with a bunch of parts, on the cheap, with
probably no other intelligent upgrades like suspension, brakes, etc.
Dan D
'04 A4 1.8Tq MT-6
Central NJ USA
#38
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Re: Engine Swap A4 2.8L to S4 2.7L bi-turbo
Oh, well. Apparently he's either not real serious about the swap or
he's going to keep asking around until someone gives him the answer
he's looking for. As I noted, the swap doesn't make sense to me
personally. He'd be better off getting the PES kit or trading the A4 in
toward something else.
Dano58 wrote:
> This isn't the first time this guy has asked about this in a group, he
> has asked the same question (and gotten basically the same answers) in
> a Yahoo group as well. He never responds to any posts made back to his
> question.
>
> The key here is, 'can I do it cheaply'? So, he's looking to do some
> half-assed 'conversion' with a bunch of parts, on the cheap, with
> probably no other intelligent upgrades like suspension, brakes, etc.
>
> Dan D
> '04 A4 1.8Tq MT-6
> Central NJ USA
he's going to keep asking around until someone gives him the answer
he's looking for. As I noted, the swap doesn't make sense to me
personally. He'd be better off getting the PES kit or trading the A4 in
toward something else.
Dano58 wrote:
> This isn't the first time this guy has asked about this in a group, he
> has asked the same question (and gotten basically the same answers) in
> a Yahoo group as well. He never responds to any posts made back to his
> question.
>
> The key here is, 'can I do it cheaply'? So, he's looking to do some
> half-assed 'conversion' with a bunch of parts, on the cheap, with
> probably no other intelligent upgrades like suspension, brakes, etc.
>
> Dan D
> '04 A4 1.8Tq MT-6
> Central NJ USA
#39
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Engine Swap A4 2.8L to S4 2.7L bi-turbo
Oh, well. Apparently he's either not real serious about the swap or
he's going to keep asking around until someone gives him the answer
he's looking for. As I noted, the swap doesn't make sense to me
personally. He'd be better off getting the PES kit or trading the A4 in
toward something else.
Dano58 wrote:
> This isn't the first time this guy has asked about this in a group, he
> has asked the same question (and gotten basically the same answers) in
> a Yahoo group as well. He never responds to any posts made back to his
> question.
>
> The key here is, 'can I do it cheaply'? So, he's looking to do some
> half-assed 'conversion' with a bunch of parts, on the cheap, with
> probably no other intelligent upgrades like suspension, brakes, etc.
>
> Dan D
> '04 A4 1.8Tq MT-6
> Central NJ USA
he's going to keep asking around until someone gives him the answer
he's looking for. As I noted, the swap doesn't make sense to me
personally. He'd be better off getting the PES kit or trading the A4 in
toward something else.
Dano58 wrote:
> This isn't the first time this guy has asked about this in a group, he
> has asked the same question (and gotten basically the same answers) in
> a Yahoo group as well. He never responds to any posts made back to his
> question.
>
> The key here is, 'can I do it cheaply'? So, he's looking to do some
> half-assed 'conversion' with a bunch of parts, on the cheap, with
> probably no other intelligent upgrades like suspension, brakes, etc.
>
> Dan D
> '04 A4 1.8Tq MT-6
> Central NJ USA
#40
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Engine Swap A4 2.8L to S4 2.7L bi-turbo
Oh, well. Apparently he's either not real serious about the swap or
he's going to keep asking around until someone gives him the answer
he's looking for. As I noted, the swap doesn't make sense to me
personally. He'd be better off getting the PES kit or trading the A4 in
toward something else.
Dano58 wrote:
> This isn't the first time this guy has asked about this in a group, he
> has asked the same question (and gotten basically the same answers) in
> a Yahoo group as well. He never responds to any posts made back to his
> question.
>
> The key here is, 'can I do it cheaply'? So, he's looking to do some
> half-assed 'conversion' with a bunch of parts, on the cheap, with
> probably no other intelligent upgrades like suspension, brakes, etc.
>
> Dan D
> '04 A4 1.8Tq MT-6
> Central NJ USA
he's going to keep asking around until someone gives him the answer
he's looking for. As I noted, the swap doesn't make sense to me
personally. He'd be better off getting the PES kit or trading the A4 in
toward something else.
Dano58 wrote:
> This isn't the first time this guy has asked about this in a group, he
> has asked the same question (and gotten basically the same answers) in
> a Yahoo group as well. He never responds to any posts made back to his
> question.
>
> The key here is, 'can I do it cheaply'? So, he's looking to do some
> half-assed 'conversion' with a bunch of parts, on the cheap, with
> probably no other intelligent upgrades like suspension, brakes, etc.
>
> Dan D
> '04 A4 1.8Tq MT-6
> Central NJ USA