Clatter on A4 at less than 2500 revs
08-24-2003, 05:23 AM
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Clatter on A4 at less than 2500 revs
All,
Any thoughts? Just this morning, my A4 1.8t has developed a clatter when
the engine is revving lower than about 2500 revs. No other symptoms - goes
fine, although I just turned around and came back home!
Sounds like a gearbox type noise, but open to suggestions.... Sounds like a
diesel at low revs.
67000 miles - full Audi service schedule etc.
Alex
Any thoughts? Just this morning, my A4 1.8t has developed a clatter when
the engine is revving lower than about 2500 revs. No other symptoms - goes
fine, although I just turned around and came back home!
Sounds like a gearbox type noise, but open to suggestions.... Sounds like a
diesel at low revs.
67000 miles - full Audi service schedule etc.
Alex
08-24-2003, 04:42 PM
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Re: Clatter on A4 at less than 2500 revs
Alex Lane wrote:
> All,
>
> Any thoughts? Just this morning, my A4 1.8t has developed a clatter when
> the engine is revving lower than about 2500 revs. No other symptoms - goes
> fine, although I just turned around and came back home!
>
> Sounds like a gearbox type noise, but open to suggestions.... Sounds like a
> diesel at low revs.
>
> 67000 miles - full Audi service schedule etc.
>
> Alex
Hi, see thread "A4 engine noise", around about the 15 of August, for a reply
(mine) that might help /Robert
> All,
>
> Any thoughts? Just this morning, my A4 1.8t has developed a clatter when
> the engine is revving lower than about 2500 revs. No other symptoms - goes
> fine, although I just turned around and came back home!
>
> Sounds like a gearbox type noise, but open to suggestions.... Sounds like a
> diesel at low revs.
>
> 67000 miles - full Audi service schedule etc.
>
> Alex
Hi, see thread "A4 engine noise", around about the 15 of August, for a reply
(mine) that might help /Robert
08-26-2003, 03:32 AM
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Re: Clatter on A4 at less than 2500 revs
"Robert Brown" <roxxxbert.brxxxown@trxxxipnet.se> wrote in message
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> Alex Lane wrote:
>
> > All,
> >
> > Any thoughts? Just this morning, my A4 1.8t has developed a clatter
when
> > the engine is revving lower than about 2500 revs. No other symptoms -
goes
> > fine, although I just turned around and came back home!
> >
> > Sounds like a gearbox type noise, but open to suggestions.... Sounds
like a
> > diesel at low revs.
> >
> > 67000 miles - full Audi service schedule etc.
> >
> > Alex
>
> Hi, see thread "A4 engine noise", around about the 15 of August, for a
reply
> (mine) that might help /Robert
>
Oil was fine (some of the suggestions), so called out RAC.
Looks like the cam belt is quite loose (can't be right - thought Audi cars
corrected this automatically?).
Car towed into Audi today - will let you know the outcome, but sounds
pricey...!
Alex
08-28-2003, 10:40 AM
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Re: Clatter on A4 at less than 2500 revs
It was the cambelt tensioner - the result was a bill for £580 from Audi.
Great.
Still - at least no further damage to the engine!
Alex
"Alec" <alec@mascotte.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Hi. Must be the season for it. Pulled into the drive tonight with it
> sounding like a diesel.
> It looks like the cambelt tensioner has failed.
> I guess we were both lucky not to lunch the engine.....
> Ordered bits from ECP for £150. Nice job for the weekend.
> Let us know how you get on.
> Rgds
> Alec
> "Alex Lane" <alexlaneXXXNOSPAMTHANKSXXX@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
> news:tWE2b.5087$eb7.1857@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk...
> >
> > "Robert Brown" <roxxxbert.brxxxown@trxxxipnet.se> wrote in message
> > news:3F493129.A9C26FE4@trxxxipnet.se...
> > > Alex Lane wrote:
> > >
> > > > All,
> > > >
> > > > Any thoughts? Just this morning, my A4 1.8t has developed a clatter
> > when
> > > > the engine is revving lower than about 2500 revs. No other
symptoms -
> > goes
> > > > fine, although I just turned around and came back home!
> > > >
> > > > Sounds like a gearbox type noise, but open to suggestions....
Sounds
> > like a
> > > > diesel at low revs.
> > > >
> > > > 67000 miles - full Audi service schedule etc.
> > > >
> > > > Alex
> > >
> > > Hi, see thread "A4 engine noise", around about the 15 of August, for a
> > reply
> > > (mine) that might help /Robert
> > >
> >
> > Oil was fine (some of the suggestions), so called out RAC.
> >
> > Looks like the cam belt is quite loose (can't be right - thought Audi
cars
> > corrected this automatically?).
> >
> > Car towed into Audi today - will let you know the outcome, but sounds
> > pricey...!
> >
> > Alex
> >
> >
>
>
Great.
Still - at least no further damage to the engine!
Alex
"Alec" <alec@mascotte.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:00b032746e606632667f04e083723d8d@news.teranew s.com...
> Hi. Must be the season for it. Pulled into the drive tonight with it
> sounding like a diesel.
> It looks like the cambelt tensioner has failed.
> I guess we were both lucky not to lunch the engine.....
> Ordered bits from ECP for £150. Nice job for the weekend.
> Let us know how you get on.
> Rgds
> Alec
> "Alex Lane" <alexlaneXXXNOSPAMTHANKSXXX@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
> news:tWE2b.5087$eb7.1857@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk...
> >
> > "Robert Brown" <roxxxbert.brxxxown@trxxxipnet.se> wrote in message
> > news:3F493129.A9C26FE4@trxxxipnet.se...
> > > Alex Lane wrote:
> > >
> > > > All,
> > > >
> > > > Any thoughts? Just this morning, my A4 1.8t has developed a clatter
> > when
> > > > the engine is revving lower than about 2500 revs. No other
symptoms -
> > goes
> > > > fine, although I just turned around and came back home!
> > > >
> > > > Sounds like a gearbox type noise, but open to suggestions....
Sounds
> > like a
> > > > diesel at low revs.
> > > >
> > > > 67000 miles - full Audi service schedule etc.
> > > >
> > > > Alex
> > >
> > > Hi, see thread "A4 engine noise", around about the 15 of August, for a
> > reply
> > > (mine) that might help /Robert
> > >
> >
> > Oil was fine (some of the suggestions), so called out RAC.
> >
> > Looks like the cam belt is quite loose (can't be right - thought Audi
cars
> > corrected this automatically?).
> >
> > Car towed into Audi today - will let you know the outcome, but sounds
> > pricey...!
> >
> > Alex
> >
> >
>
>
08-28-2003, 11:43 AM
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Re: Clatter on A4 at less than 2500 revs
It sure sounded like a cam belt tensioner from here.
Hopefully you didn't bend any valve stems or crater a piston crown...
On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 16:40:18 +0100, "Alex Lane"
<alexlaneXXXNOSPAMTHANKSXXX@bigfoot.com> wrote:
>It was the cambelt tensioner - the result was a bill for £580 from Audi.
>Great.
>
>Still - at least no further damage to the engine!
>
>Alex
>
>"Alec" <alec@mascotte.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:00b032746e606632667f04e083723d8d@news.terane ws.com...
>> Hi. Must be the season for it. Pulled into the drive tonight with it
>> sounding like a diesel.
>> It looks like the cambelt tensioner has failed.
>> I guess we were both lucky not to lunch the engine.....
>> Ordered bits from ECP for £150. Nice job for the weekend.
>> Let us know how you get on.
>> Rgds
>> Alec
>> "Alex Lane" <alexlaneXXXNOSPAMTHANKSXXX@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
>> news:tWE2b.5087$eb7.1857@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk...
>> >
>> > "Robert Brown" <roxxxbert.brxxxown@trxxxipnet.se> wrote in message
>> > news:3F493129.A9C26FE4@trxxxipnet.se...
>> > > Alex Lane wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > All,
>> > > >
>> > > > Any thoughts? Just this morning, my A4 1.8t has developed a clatter
>> > when
>> > > > the engine is revving lower than about 2500 revs. No other
>symptoms -
>> > goes
>> > > > fine, although I just turned around and came back home!
>> > > >
>> > > > Sounds like a gearbox type noise, but open to suggestions....
>Sounds
>> > like a
>> > > > diesel at low revs.
>> > > >
>> > > > 67000 miles - full Audi service schedule etc.
>> > > >
>> > > > Alex
>> > >
>> > > Hi, see thread "A4 engine noise", around about the 15 of August, for a
>> > reply
>> > > (mine) that might help /Robert
>> > >
>> >
>> > Oil was fine (some of the suggestions), so called out RAC.
>> >
>> > Looks like the cam belt is quite loose (can't be right - thought Audi
>cars
>> > corrected this automatically?).
>> >
>> > Car towed into Audi today - will let you know the outcome, but sounds
>> > pricey...!
>> >
>> > Alex
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
Hopefully you didn't bend any valve stems or crater a piston crown...
On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 16:40:18 +0100, "Alex Lane"
<alexlaneXXXNOSPAMTHANKSXXX@bigfoot.com> wrote:
>It was the cambelt tensioner - the result was a bill for £580 from Audi.
>Great.
>
>Still - at least no further damage to the engine!
>
>Alex
>
>"Alec" <alec@mascotte.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:00b032746e606632667f04e083723d8d@news.terane ws.com...
>> Hi. Must be the season for it. Pulled into the drive tonight with it
>> sounding like a diesel.
>> It looks like the cambelt tensioner has failed.
>> I guess we were both lucky not to lunch the engine.....
>> Ordered bits from ECP for £150. Nice job for the weekend.
>> Let us know how you get on.
>> Rgds
>> Alec
>> "Alex Lane" <alexlaneXXXNOSPAMTHANKSXXX@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
>> news:tWE2b.5087$eb7.1857@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk...
>> >
>> > "Robert Brown" <roxxxbert.brxxxown@trxxxipnet.se> wrote in message
>> > news:3F493129.A9C26FE4@trxxxipnet.se...
>> > > Alex Lane wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > All,
>> > > >
>> > > > Any thoughts? Just this morning, my A4 1.8t has developed a clatter
>> > when
>> > > > the engine is revving lower than about 2500 revs. No other
>symptoms -
>> > goes
>> > > > fine, although I just turned around and came back home!
>> > > >
>> > > > Sounds like a gearbox type noise, but open to suggestions....
>Sounds
>> > like a
>> > > > diesel at low revs.
>> > > >
>> > > > 67000 miles - full Audi service schedule etc.
>> > > >
>> > > > Alex
>> > >
>> > > Hi, see thread "A4 engine noise", around about the 15 of August, for a
>> > reply
>> > > (mine) that might help /Robert
>> > >
>> >
>> > Oil was fine (some of the suggestions), so called out RAC.
>> >
>> > Looks like the cam belt is quite loose (can't be right - thought Audi
>cars
>> > corrected this automatically?).
>> >
>> > Car towed into Audi today - will let you know the outcome, but sounds
>> > pricey...!
>> >
>> > Alex
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
08-30-2003, 12:54 AM
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Re: Clatter on A4 at less than 2500 revs
To: "Alex Lane" <alexlaneXXXNOSPAMTHANKSXXX@bigfoot.com>
Re: Re: Clatter on A4 at less than 2500 revs
By: "Alex Lane" <alexlaneXXXNOSPAMTHANKSXXX@bigfoot.com> to alt.autos.audi on Tue Aug 26 2003 10:32 am
> Oil was fine (some of the suggestions), so called out RAC.
>
> Looks like the cam belt is quite loose (can't be right - thought Audi cars
> corrected this automatically?).
>
> Car towed into Audi today - will let you know the outcome, but sounds
> pricey...!
Probably the cambelt tensioner came loose. There is an updated design for this
condition.
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Re: Re: Clatter on A4 at less than 2500 revs
By: "Alex Lane" <alexlaneXXXNOSPAMTHANKSXXX@bigfoot.com> to alt.autos.audi on Tue Aug 26 2003 10:32 am
> Oil was fine (some of the suggestions), so called out RAC.
>
> Looks like the cam belt is quite loose (can't be right - thought Audi cars
> corrected this automatically?).
>
> Car towed into Audi today - will let you know the outcome, but sounds
> pricey...!
Probably the cambelt tensioner came loose. There is an updated design for this
condition.
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08-30-2003, 08:36 AM
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Re: Clatter on A4 at less than 2500 revs
Yea, that's what's happened to mine. Fitted the revised parts this morning.
Back on the road !!!
Rgds
Alec
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> To: "Alex Lane" <alexlaneXXXNOSPAMTHANKSXXX@bigfoot.com>
> Re: Re: Clatter on A4 at less than 2500 revs
> By: "Alex Lane" <alexlaneXXXNOSPAMTHANKSXXX@bigfoot.com> to
alt.autos.audi on Tue Aug 26 2003 10:32 am
>
> > Oil was fine (some of the suggestions), so called out RAC.
> >
> > Looks like the cam belt is quite loose (can't be right - thought Audi
cars
> > corrected this automatically?).
> >
> > Car towed into Audi today - will let you know the outcome, but sounds
> > pricey...!
> Probably the cambelt tensioner came loose. There is an updated design for
this
> condition.
>
>
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> * Friends of Bill W - Raytown,MO - telnet://friendsofbillw.dyndns.org
Back on the road !!!
Rgds
Alec
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> To: "Alex Lane" <alexlaneXXXNOSPAMTHANKSXXX@bigfoot.com>
> Re: Re: Clatter on A4 at less than 2500 revs
> By: "Alex Lane" <alexlaneXXXNOSPAMTHANKSXXX@bigfoot.com> to
alt.autos.audi on Tue Aug 26 2003 10:32 am
>
> > Oil was fine (some of the suggestions), so called out RAC.
> >
> > Looks like the cam belt is quite loose (can't be right - thought Audi
cars
> > corrected this automatically?).
> >
> > Car towed into Audi today - will let you know the outcome, but sounds
> > pricey...!
> Probably the cambelt tensioner came loose. There is an updated design for
this
> condition.
>
>
> --- Synchronet 3.10L-Win32 NewsLink 1.43
> * Friends of Bill W - Raytown,MO - telnet://friendsofbillw.dyndns.org
08-30-2003, 02:52 PM
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Re: Clatter on A4 at less than 2500 revs
Alec wrote:
> Yea, that's what's happened to mine. Fitted the revised parts this morning.
> Back on the road !!!
> Rgds
> Alec
> "Kcvwdoc" <kcvwdoc@friendsofbillw.dyndns.org.remove-u03-this> wrote in
> message news:3F502E14.951.altaudi@friendsofbillw.dyndns.or g...
> > To: "Alex Lane" <alexlaneXXXNOSPAMTHANKSXXX@bigfoot.com>
> > Re: Re: Clatter on A4 at less than 2500 revs
> > By: "Alex Lane" <alexlaneXXXNOSPAMTHANKSXXX@bigfoot.com> to
> alt.autos.audi on Tue Aug 26 2003 10:32 am
> >
> > > Oil was fine (some of the suggestions), so called out RAC.
> > >
> > > Looks like the cam belt is quite loose (can't be right - thought Audi
> cars
> > > corrected this automatically?).
> > >
> > > Car towed into Audi today - will let you know the outcome, but sounds
> > > pricey...!
> > Probably the cambelt tensioner came loose. There is an updated design for
> this
> > condition.
Glad to hear the problem is fixed without major money paid.
Could you pls post model year of your car as well as part number
of revised tensioner (and/or when the revised part was issued,
if you happen to know).
Am very curious to figure out from what time the factory started
using the revised tensioner in regular assembly - before or after
my car was made . . .
/Robert
> Yea, that's what's happened to mine. Fitted the revised parts this morning.
> Back on the road !!!
> Rgds
> Alec
> "Kcvwdoc" <kcvwdoc@friendsofbillw.dyndns.org.remove-u03-this> wrote in
> message news:3F502E14.951.altaudi@friendsofbillw.dyndns.or g...
> > To: "Alex Lane" <alexlaneXXXNOSPAMTHANKSXXX@bigfoot.com>
> > Re: Re: Clatter on A4 at less than 2500 revs
> > By: "Alex Lane" <alexlaneXXXNOSPAMTHANKSXXX@bigfoot.com> to
> alt.autos.audi on Tue Aug 26 2003 10:32 am
> >
> > > Oil was fine (some of the suggestions), so called out RAC.
> > >
> > > Looks like the cam belt is quite loose (can't be right - thought Audi
> cars
> > > corrected this automatically?).
> > >
> > > Car towed into Audi today - will let you know the outcome, but sounds
> > > pricey...!
> > Probably the cambelt tensioner came loose. There is an updated design for
> this
> > condition.
Glad to hear the problem is fixed without major money paid.
Could you pls post model year of your car as well as part number
of revised tensioner (and/or when the revised part was issued,
if you happen to know).
Am very curious to figure out from what time the factory started
using the revised tensioner in regular assembly - before or after
my car was made . . .
/Robert
08-30-2003, 04:32 PM
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Re: Clatter on A4 at less than 2500 revs
Its a 1998 1.8T AEB.
The slightly annoying thing is that when the main dealer replaced the timing
belt, about 14 months/35K miles ago that is all he did. No recommendations
about revised parts !!!
This time I decided to get my hands dirty, save £400, and fit the latest
parts.
The AEB is now being fitted with the tensioner from the non-turbo 1.8 I
think..
Tensioner 058 109 479 B
Roller 058 109 243 C
Belt 153 teeth 058 109 119 C
Rgds
Alec
"Robert Brown" <roxxxbert.brxxxown@trxxxipnet.se> wrote in message
news:3F51007B.5981CEC0@trxxxipnet.se...
> Alec wrote:
>
> > Yea, that's what's happened to mine. Fitted the revised parts this
morning.
> > Back on the road !!!
> > Rgds
> > Alec
> > "Kcvwdoc" <kcvwdoc@friendsofbillw.dyndns.org.remove-u03-this> wrote in
> > message news:3F502E14.951.altaudi@friendsofbillw.dyndns.or g...
> > > To: "Alex Lane" <alexlaneXXXNOSPAMTHANKSXXX@bigfoot.com>
> > > Re: Re: Clatter on A4 at less than 2500 revs
> > > By: "Alex Lane" <alexlaneXXXNOSPAMTHANKSXXX@bigfoot.com> to
> > alt.autos.audi on Tue Aug 26 2003 10:32 am
> > >
> > > > Oil was fine (some of the suggestions), so called out RAC.
> > > >
> > > > Looks like the cam belt is quite loose (can't be right - thought
Audi
> > cars
> > > > corrected this automatically?).
> > > >
> > > > Car towed into Audi today - will let you know the outcome, but
sounds
> > > > pricey...!
> > > Probably the cambelt tensioner came loose. There is an updated design
for
> > this
> > > condition.
>
> Glad to hear the problem is fixed without major money paid.
>
> Could you pls post model year of your car as well as part number
> of revised tensioner (and/or when the revised part was issued,
> if you happen to know).
>
> Am very curious to figure out from what time the factory started
> using the revised tensioner in regular assembly - before or after
> my car was made . . .
>
> /Robert
>
The slightly annoying thing is that when the main dealer replaced the timing
belt, about 14 months/35K miles ago that is all he did. No recommendations
about revised parts !!!
This time I decided to get my hands dirty, save £400, and fit the latest
parts.
The AEB is now being fitted with the tensioner from the non-turbo 1.8 I
think..
Tensioner 058 109 479 B
Roller 058 109 243 C
Belt 153 teeth 058 109 119 C
Rgds
Alec
"Robert Brown" <roxxxbert.brxxxown@trxxxipnet.se> wrote in message
news:3F51007B.5981CEC0@trxxxipnet.se...
> Alec wrote:
>
> > Yea, that's what's happened to mine. Fitted the revised parts this
morning.
> > Back on the road !!!
> > Rgds
> > Alec
> > "Kcvwdoc" <kcvwdoc@friendsofbillw.dyndns.org.remove-u03-this> wrote in
> > message news:3F502E14.951.altaudi@friendsofbillw.dyndns.or g...
> > > To: "Alex Lane" <alexlaneXXXNOSPAMTHANKSXXX@bigfoot.com>
> > > Re: Re: Clatter on A4 at less than 2500 revs
> > > By: "Alex Lane" <alexlaneXXXNOSPAMTHANKSXXX@bigfoot.com> to
> > alt.autos.audi on Tue Aug 26 2003 10:32 am
> > >
> > > > Oil was fine (some of the suggestions), so called out RAC.
> > > >
> > > > Looks like the cam belt is quite loose (can't be right - thought
Audi
> > cars
> > > > corrected this automatically?).
> > > >
> > > > Car towed into Audi today - will let you know the outcome, but
sounds
> > > > pricey...!
> > > Probably the cambelt tensioner came loose. There is an updated design
for
> > this
> > > condition.
>
> Glad to hear the problem is fixed without major money paid.
>
> Could you pls post model year of your car as well as part number
> of revised tensioner (and/or when the revised part was issued,
> if you happen to know).
>
> Am very curious to figure out from what time the factory started
> using the revised tensioner in regular assembly - before or after
> my car was made . . .
>
> /Robert
>
09-02-2003, 06:30 PM
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Re: Clatter on A4 at less than 2500 revs
Aaak! Get your timing belt changed out after 65k. I have a '99 A4 1.8T and
the timing belt broke [while driving on freeway no less!] at 78k. This is
not uncommon if you have been following posts here - even though Audi
recommends change at 105k.
Learn from the experience and mistake of others - please! My car has not
been the same since!
Ab
"Robert Brown" <roxxxbert.brxxxown@trxxxipnet.se> wrote in message
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> Alec wrote:
> ---8<---cut
>
> > Tensioner 058 109 479 B
> > Roller 058 109 243 C
> > Belt 153 teeth 058 109 119 C
>
> Thanks for the info, I'll store this (I have a timing belt change due at
120k km
> but will probably do at 90k). /Robert
>
the timing belt broke [while driving on freeway no less!] at 78k. This is
not uncommon if you have been following posts here - even though Audi
recommends change at 105k.
Learn from the experience and mistake of others - please! My car has not
been the same since!
Ab
"Robert Brown" <roxxxbert.brxxxown@trxxxipnet.se> wrote in message
news:3F550771.D72D5EEF@trxxxipnet.se...
> Alec wrote:
> ---8<---cut
>
> > Tensioner 058 109 479 B
> > Roller 058 109 243 C
> > Belt 153 teeth 058 109 119 C
>
> Thanks for the info, I'll store this (I have a timing belt change due at
120k km
> but will probably do at 90k). /Robert
>
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