audi and kaipola ski jump advertisiement - climbing an icy hill
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Re: audi and kaipola ski jump advertisiement - climbing an icy hill
It's actually a lot of fun doing that!
We regularly used to take our Jeeps out to a local sand pit area before
it closed that is challenging in the summer and run it in the winter.
It is a blast and our 4x4's can climb wicked slopes in snow. Way more
than 37.5 degrees.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
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aniramca@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> Thanks for the correction. I checked the ad again, and it was 80%
> grade.
> 37.5 degrees is more likely! It is still very steep, though
>
> 223rem wrote:
> > Pooh Bear wrote:
> > >
> > > aniramca@yahoo.com wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >>I saw this advertisement from Audi on their second records on driving
> > >>up Kaipola ski jump in Finland. It was a rather impressive achievement
> > >>and photos. I could not believe that a car can climb a hill with slope
> > >>of 80 degrees,
> > >
> > >
> > > 37.5 degrees actually.
> >
> > I wonder if the AWD was really useful at that angle. RWD
> > should have been enough.
We regularly used to take our Jeeps out to a local sand pit area before
it closed that is challenging in the summer and run it in the winter.
It is a blast and our 4x4's can climb wicked slopes in snow. Way more
than 37.5 degrees.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
aniramca@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> Thanks for the correction. I checked the ad again, and it was 80%
> grade.
> 37.5 degrees is more likely! It is still very steep, though
>
> 223rem wrote:
> > Pooh Bear wrote:
> > >
> > > aniramca@yahoo.com wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >>I saw this advertisement from Audi on their second records on driving
> > >>up Kaipola ski jump in Finland. It was a rather impressive achievement
> > >>and photos. I could not believe that a car can climb a hill with slope
> > >>of 80 degrees,
> > >
> > >
> > > 37.5 degrees actually.
> >
> > I wonder if the AWD was really useful at that angle. RWD
> > should have been enough.
#52
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Re: audi and kaipola ski jump advertisiement - climbing an icy hill
It's actually a lot of fun doing that!
We regularly used to take our Jeeps out to a local sand pit area before
it closed that is challenging in the summer and run it in the winter.
It is a blast and our 4x4's can climb wicked slopes in snow. Way more
than 37.5 degrees.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
aniramca@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> Thanks for the correction. I checked the ad again, and it was 80%
> grade.
> 37.5 degrees is more likely! It is still very steep, though
>
> 223rem wrote:
> > Pooh Bear wrote:
> > >
> > > aniramca@yahoo.com wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >>I saw this advertisement from Audi on their second records on driving
> > >>up Kaipola ski jump in Finland. It was a rather impressive achievement
> > >>and photos. I could not believe that a car can climb a hill with slope
> > >>of 80 degrees,
> > >
> > >
> > > 37.5 degrees actually.
> >
> > I wonder if the AWD was really useful at that angle. RWD
> > should have been enough.
We regularly used to take our Jeeps out to a local sand pit area before
it closed that is challenging in the summer and run it in the winter.
It is a blast and our 4x4's can climb wicked slopes in snow. Way more
than 37.5 degrees.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
aniramca@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> Thanks for the correction. I checked the ad again, and it was 80%
> grade.
> 37.5 degrees is more likely! It is still very steep, though
>
> 223rem wrote:
> > Pooh Bear wrote:
> > >
> > > aniramca@yahoo.com wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >>I saw this advertisement from Audi on their second records on driving
> > >>up Kaipola ski jump in Finland. It was a rather impressive achievement
> > >>and photos. I could not believe that a car can climb a hill with slope
> > >>of 80 degrees,
> > >
> > >
> > > 37.5 degrees actually.
> >
> > I wonder if the AWD was really useful at that angle. RWD
> > should have been enough.
#53
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Re: audi and kaipola ski jump advertisiement - climbing an icy hill
In article <uMnzf.715733$_o.133366@attbi_s71>,
223rem <223rem@sbcglobal.com> wrote:
> Tomes wrote:
> > "Alan Baker" <alangbaker@telus.net> wrote in message
> > news:alangbaker-88E5A5.19065317012006@news.telus.net...
> >
> >
> >>And the explains the problem:
> >>
> >>" is hard to believe that, after quite literally scaling new heights, he
> >>has just parked his Atlas Grey Audi A6 4.2 quattro 47 metres off the
> >>ground at an angle of 37.5 degrees and that is approximately equivalent
> >>to an 80 percent gradient."
> >>
> >>80%, not 80 degrees.
> >>
> >
> >
> > In a given distance it rises 80% of that distance.
> > Tomes
>
> So how did they get 0.8 from 37.5 degrees?
> Is that the tangent of the slope angle? It is close numerically, but
> it doesnt sound right, as it can exceed 100%. Or is the sinus? That
> doesnt match numerically with 0.8.
A slope *can* exceed 100%, because yes, it is the tangent of the slope
angle. A 45 degree slope is 100%.
--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
"If you raise the ceiling 4 feet, move the fireplace from that wall
to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect
if you sit in the bottom of that cupboard."
223rem <223rem@sbcglobal.com> wrote:
> Tomes wrote:
> > "Alan Baker" <alangbaker@telus.net> wrote in message
> > news:alangbaker-88E5A5.19065317012006@news.telus.net...
> >
> >
> >>And the explains the problem:
> >>
> >>" is hard to believe that, after quite literally scaling new heights, he
> >>has just parked his Atlas Grey Audi A6 4.2 quattro 47 metres off the
> >>ground at an angle of 37.5 degrees and that is approximately equivalent
> >>to an 80 percent gradient."
> >>
> >>80%, not 80 degrees.
> >>
> >
> >
> > In a given distance it rises 80% of that distance.
> > Tomes
>
> So how did they get 0.8 from 37.5 degrees?
> Is that the tangent of the slope angle? It is close numerically, but
> it doesnt sound right, as it can exceed 100%. Or is the sinus? That
> doesnt match numerically with 0.8.
A slope *can* exceed 100%, because yes, it is the tangent of the slope
angle. A 45 degree slope is 100%.
--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
"If you raise the ceiling 4 feet, move the fireplace from that wall
to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect
if you sit in the bottom of that cupboard."
#54
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Re: audi and kaipola ski jump advertisiement - climbing an icy hill
In article <uMnzf.715733$_o.133366@attbi_s71>,
223rem <223rem@sbcglobal.com> wrote:
> Tomes wrote:
> > "Alan Baker" <alangbaker@telus.net> wrote in message
> > news:alangbaker-88E5A5.19065317012006@news.telus.net...
> >
> >
> >>And the explains the problem:
> >>
> >>" is hard to believe that, after quite literally scaling new heights, he
> >>has just parked his Atlas Grey Audi A6 4.2 quattro 47 metres off the
> >>ground at an angle of 37.5 degrees and that is approximately equivalent
> >>to an 80 percent gradient."
> >>
> >>80%, not 80 degrees.
> >>
> >
> >
> > In a given distance it rises 80% of that distance.
> > Tomes
>
> So how did they get 0.8 from 37.5 degrees?
> Is that the tangent of the slope angle? It is close numerically, but
> it doesnt sound right, as it can exceed 100%. Or is the sinus? That
> doesnt match numerically with 0.8.
A slope *can* exceed 100%, because yes, it is the tangent of the slope
angle. A 45 degree slope is 100%.
--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
"If you raise the ceiling 4 feet, move the fireplace from that wall
to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect
if you sit in the bottom of that cupboard."
223rem <223rem@sbcglobal.com> wrote:
> Tomes wrote:
> > "Alan Baker" <alangbaker@telus.net> wrote in message
> > news:alangbaker-88E5A5.19065317012006@news.telus.net...
> >
> >
> >>And the explains the problem:
> >>
> >>" is hard to believe that, after quite literally scaling new heights, he
> >>has just parked his Atlas Grey Audi A6 4.2 quattro 47 metres off the
> >>ground at an angle of 37.5 degrees and that is approximately equivalent
> >>to an 80 percent gradient."
> >>
> >>80%, not 80 degrees.
> >>
> >
> >
> > In a given distance it rises 80% of that distance.
> > Tomes
>
> So how did they get 0.8 from 37.5 degrees?
> Is that the tangent of the slope angle? It is close numerically, but
> it doesnt sound right, as it can exceed 100%. Or is the sinus? That
> doesnt match numerically with 0.8.
A slope *can* exceed 100%, because yes, it is the tangent of the slope
angle. A 45 degree slope is 100%.
--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
"If you raise the ceiling 4 feet, move the fireplace from that wall
to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect
if you sit in the bottom of that cupboard."
#55
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Re: audi and kaipola ski jump advertisiement - climbing an icy hill
In article <uMnzf.715733$_o.133366@attbi_s71>,
223rem <223rem@sbcglobal.com> wrote:
> Tomes wrote:
> > "Alan Baker" <alangbaker@telus.net> wrote in message
> > news:alangbaker-88E5A5.19065317012006@news.telus.net...
> >
> >
> >>And the explains the problem:
> >>
> >>" is hard to believe that, after quite literally scaling new heights, he
> >>has just parked his Atlas Grey Audi A6 4.2 quattro 47 metres off the
> >>ground at an angle of 37.5 degrees and that is approximately equivalent
> >>to an 80 percent gradient."
> >>
> >>80%, not 80 degrees.
> >>
> >
> >
> > In a given distance it rises 80% of that distance.
> > Tomes
>
> So how did they get 0.8 from 37.5 degrees?
> Is that the tangent of the slope angle? It is close numerically, but
> it doesnt sound right, as it can exceed 100%. Or is the sinus? That
> doesnt match numerically with 0.8.
A slope *can* exceed 100%, because yes, it is the tangent of the slope
angle. A 45 degree slope is 100%.
--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
"If you raise the ceiling 4 feet, move the fireplace from that wall
to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect
if you sit in the bottom of that cupboard."
223rem <223rem@sbcglobal.com> wrote:
> Tomes wrote:
> > "Alan Baker" <alangbaker@telus.net> wrote in message
> > news:alangbaker-88E5A5.19065317012006@news.telus.net...
> >
> >
> >>And the explains the problem:
> >>
> >>" is hard to believe that, after quite literally scaling new heights, he
> >>has just parked his Atlas Grey Audi A6 4.2 quattro 47 metres off the
> >>ground at an angle of 37.5 degrees and that is approximately equivalent
> >>to an 80 percent gradient."
> >>
> >>80%, not 80 degrees.
> >>
> >
> >
> > In a given distance it rises 80% of that distance.
> > Tomes
>
> So how did they get 0.8 from 37.5 degrees?
> Is that the tangent of the slope angle? It is close numerically, but
> it doesnt sound right, as it can exceed 100%. Or is the sinus? That
> doesnt match numerically with 0.8.
A slope *can* exceed 100%, because yes, it is the tangent of the slope
angle. A 45 degree slope is 100%.
--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
"If you raise the ceiling 4 feet, move the fireplace from that wall
to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect
if you sit in the bottom of that cupboard."
#56
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Re: audi and kaipola ski jump advertisiement - climbing an icy hill
In article <43CE1A62.92CA321E@fotograaf.com>,
Erik-Jan Geniets <ej@fotograaf.com> wrote:
> Alan Baker wrote:
> >
> > In article <43CDB8FF.71424285@fotograaf.com>,
> > Erik-Jan Geniets <ej@fotograaf.com> wrote:
> >
> > > 223rem wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Pooh Bear wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > aniramca@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >>I saw this advertisement from Audi on their second records on driving
> > > > >>up Kaipola ski jump in Finland. It was a rather impressive achievement
> > > > >>and photos. I could not believe that a car can climb a hill with slope
> > > > >>of 80 degrees,
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 37.5 degrees actually.
> > > >
> > > > I wonder if the AWD was really useful at that angle. RWD
> > > > should have been enough.
> > >
> > > At this angle, in terrain (no snow or ice) you will need grip.
> > > Without AWD or 4WD you will be left with a spinning (rear) wheel.
> > > Kind regards,
> > > Erik-Jan.
> >
> > You really should study physics a little...
>
> Why? We are talking about an angle of 37.5 degrees here which can be
> done with most 4x4's with low range T-case. On tarmac you will even
> succeed without spinning wheels.
Your missing the point. At 37.5 degrees, almost the entire weight of the
vehicle will be on the rear wheels. Take a wheelbase of 8' for example
and assume a 50-50 weight distribution. If the centre of mass is located
at 8/2 * 80% = 3.2 feet, then the entire weight of the vehicle would be
on the rear wheels on a 80% or 37.5 degree slope.
Hence the OP was suggesting that only RWD would be necessary.
--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
"If you raise the ceiling 4 feet, move the fireplace from that wall
to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect
if you sit in the bottom of that cupboard."
Erik-Jan Geniets <ej@fotograaf.com> wrote:
> Alan Baker wrote:
> >
> > In article <43CDB8FF.71424285@fotograaf.com>,
> > Erik-Jan Geniets <ej@fotograaf.com> wrote:
> >
> > > 223rem wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Pooh Bear wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > aniramca@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >>I saw this advertisement from Audi on their second records on driving
> > > > >>up Kaipola ski jump in Finland. It was a rather impressive achievement
> > > > >>and photos. I could not believe that a car can climb a hill with slope
> > > > >>of 80 degrees,
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 37.5 degrees actually.
> > > >
> > > > I wonder if the AWD was really useful at that angle. RWD
> > > > should have been enough.
> > >
> > > At this angle, in terrain (no snow or ice) you will need grip.
> > > Without AWD or 4WD you will be left with a spinning (rear) wheel.
> > > Kind regards,
> > > Erik-Jan.
> >
> > You really should study physics a little...
>
> Why? We are talking about an angle of 37.5 degrees here which can be
> done with most 4x4's with low range T-case. On tarmac you will even
> succeed without spinning wheels.
Your missing the point. At 37.5 degrees, almost the entire weight of the
vehicle will be on the rear wheels. Take a wheelbase of 8' for example
and assume a 50-50 weight distribution. If the centre of mass is located
at 8/2 * 80% = 3.2 feet, then the entire weight of the vehicle would be
on the rear wheels on a 80% or 37.5 degree slope.
Hence the OP was suggesting that only RWD would be necessary.
--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
"If you raise the ceiling 4 feet, move the fireplace from that wall
to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect
if you sit in the bottom of that cupboard."
#57
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Re: audi and kaipola ski jump advertisiement - climbing an icy hill
In article <43CE1A62.92CA321E@fotograaf.com>,
Erik-Jan Geniets <ej@fotograaf.com> wrote:
> Alan Baker wrote:
> >
> > In article <43CDB8FF.71424285@fotograaf.com>,
> > Erik-Jan Geniets <ej@fotograaf.com> wrote:
> >
> > > 223rem wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Pooh Bear wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > aniramca@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >>I saw this advertisement from Audi on their second records on driving
> > > > >>up Kaipola ski jump in Finland. It was a rather impressive achievement
> > > > >>and photos. I could not believe that a car can climb a hill with slope
> > > > >>of 80 degrees,
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 37.5 degrees actually.
> > > >
> > > > I wonder if the AWD was really useful at that angle. RWD
> > > > should have been enough.
> > >
> > > At this angle, in terrain (no snow or ice) you will need grip.
> > > Without AWD or 4WD you will be left with a spinning (rear) wheel.
> > > Kind regards,
> > > Erik-Jan.
> >
> > You really should study physics a little...
>
> Why? We are talking about an angle of 37.5 degrees here which can be
> done with most 4x4's with low range T-case. On tarmac you will even
> succeed without spinning wheels.
Your missing the point. At 37.5 degrees, almost the entire weight of the
vehicle will be on the rear wheels. Take a wheelbase of 8' for example
and assume a 50-50 weight distribution. If the centre of mass is located
at 8/2 * 80% = 3.2 feet, then the entire weight of the vehicle would be
on the rear wheels on a 80% or 37.5 degree slope.
Hence the OP was suggesting that only RWD would be necessary.
--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
"If you raise the ceiling 4 feet, move the fireplace from that wall
to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect
if you sit in the bottom of that cupboard."
Erik-Jan Geniets <ej@fotograaf.com> wrote:
> Alan Baker wrote:
> >
> > In article <43CDB8FF.71424285@fotograaf.com>,
> > Erik-Jan Geniets <ej@fotograaf.com> wrote:
> >
> > > 223rem wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Pooh Bear wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > aniramca@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >>I saw this advertisement from Audi on their second records on driving
> > > > >>up Kaipola ski jump in Finland. It was a rather impressive achievement
> > > > >>and photos. I could not believe that a car can climb a hill with slope
> > > > >>of 80 degrees,
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 37.5 degrees actually.
> > > >
> > > > I wonder if the AWD was really useful at that angle. RWD
> > > > should have been enough.
> > >
> > > At this angle, in terrain (no snow or ice) you will need grip.
> > > Without AWD or 4WD you will be left with a spinning (rear) wheel.
> > > Kind regards,
> > > Erik-Jan.
> >
> > You really should study physics a little...
>
> Why? We are talking about an angle of 37.5 degrees here which can be
> done with most 4x4's with low range T-case. On tarmac you will even
> succeed without spinning wheels.
Your missing the point. At 37.5 degrees, almost the entire weight of the
vehicle will be on the rear wheels. Take a wheelbase of 8' for example
and assume a 50-50 weight distribution. If the centre of mass is located
at 8/2 * 80% = 3.2 feet, then the entire weight of the vehicle would be
on the rear wheels on a 80% or 37.5 degree slope.
Hence the OP was suggesting that only RWD would be necessary.
--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
"If you raise the ceiling 4 feet, move the fireplace from that wall
to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect
if you sit in the bottom of that cupboard."
#58
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Re: audi and kaipola ski jump advertisiement - climbing an icy hill
In article <43CE1A62.92CA321E@fotograaf.com>,
Erik-Jan Geniets <ej@fotograaf.com> wrote:
> Alan Baker wrote:
> >
> > In article <43CDB8FF.71424285@fotograaf.com>,
> > Erik-Jan Geniets <ej@fotograaf.com> wrote:
> >
> > > 223rem wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Pooh Bear wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > aniramca@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >>I saw this advertisement from Audi on their second records on driving
> > > > >>up Kaipola ski jump in Finland. It was a rather impressive achievement
> > > > >>and photos. I could not believe that a car can climb a hill with slope
> > > > >>of 80 degrees,
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 37.5 degrees actually.
> > > >
> > > > I wonder if the AWD was really useful at that angle. RWD
> > > > should have been enough.
> > >
> > > At this angle, in terrain (no snow or ice) you will need grip.
> > > Without AWD or 4WD you will be left with a spinning (rear) wheel.
> > > Kind regards,
> > > Erik-Jan.
> >
> > You really should study physics a little...
>
> Why? We are talking about an angle of 37.5 degrees here which can be
> done with most 4x4's with low range T-case. On tarmac you will even
> succeed without spinning wheels.
Your missing the point. At 37.5 degrees, almost the entire weight of the
vehicle will be on the rear wheels. Take a wheelbase of 8' for example
and assume a 50-50 weight distribution. If the centre of mass is located
at 8/2 * 80% = 3.2 feet, then the entire weight of the vehicle would be
on the rear wheels on a 80% or 37.5 degree slope.
Hence the OP was suggesting that only RWD would be necessary.
--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
"If you raise the ceiling 4 feet, move the fireplace from that wall
to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect
if you sit in the bottom of that cupboard."
Erik-Jan Geniets <ej@fotograaf.com> wrote:
> Alan Baker wrote:
> >
> > In article <43CDB8FF.71424285@fotograaf.com>,
> > Erik-Jan Geniets <ej@fotograaf.com> wrote:
> >
> > > 223rem wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Pooh Bear wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > aniramca@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >>I saw this advertisement from Audi on their second records on driving
> > > > >>up Kaipola ski jump in Finland. It was a rather impressive achievement
> > > > >>and photos. I could not believe that a car can climb a hill with slope
> > > > >>of 80 degrees,
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 37.5 degrees actually.
> > > >
> > > > I wonder if the AWD was really useful at that angle. RWD
> > > > should have been enough.
> > >
> > > At this angle, in terrain (no snow or ice) you will need grip.
> > > Without AWD or 4WD you will be left with a spinning (rear) wheel.
> > > Kind regards,
> > > Erik-Jan.
> >
> > You really should study physics a little...
>
> Why? We are talking about an angle of 37.5 degrees here which can be
> done with most 4x4's with low range T-case. On tarmac you will even
> succeed without spinning wheels.
Your missing the point. At 37.5 degrees, almost the entire weight of the
vehicle will be on the rear wheels. Take a wheelbase of 8' for example
and assume a 50-50 weight distribution. If the centre of mass is located
at 8/2 * 80% = 3.2 feet, then the entire weight of the vehicle would be
on the rear wheels on a 80% or 37.5 degree slope.
Hence the OP was suggesting that only RWD would be necessary.
--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
"If you raise the ceiling 4 feet, move the fireplace from that wall
to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect
if you sit in the bottom of that cupboard."
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Re: audi and kaipola ski jump advertisiement - climbing an icy hill
> - On what icy slope is a car can actually stand still on without
> sliding down? I thought that a relatively small slope (with no friction
> because of ice) that a car can stand up on icy slope more than say 15
> to 20 degrees ( 1V to 3H to 1V to 4H). .... or is the figure even
> lower, say 10 degrees ... or less?
To this point, if you note the small print in the ad, it states that a
safety line was used to PREVENT the car from sliding down.
#60
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Re: audi and kaipola ski jump advertisiement - climbing an icy hill
> - On what icy slope is a car can actually stand still on without
> sliding down? I thought that a relatively small slope (with no friction
> because of ice) that a car can stand up on icy slope more than say 15
> to 20 degrees ( 1V to 3H to 1V to 4H). .... or is the figure even
> lower, say 10 degrees ... or less?
To this point, if you note the small print in the ad, it states that a
safety line was used to PREVENT the car from sliding down.