audi and kaipola ski jump advertisiement - climbing an icy hill
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Re: audi and kaipola ski jump advertisiement - climbing an icy hill
The message <wwozf.19774$_k2.332630@news2.nokia.com>
from "Risto Lankinen" <rlankine@hotmail.com> contains these words:
> For instance, the gradient of a ladder leaning against a wall can be
> several hundred %'s, and the gradient of an upright wall itself is as
> much as infinite...
Or possibly even negative if your builder's had one too many for lunch.
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from "Risto Lankinen" <rlankine@hotmail.com> contains these words:
> For instance, the gradient of a ladder leaning against a wall can be
> several hundred %'s, and the gradient of an upright wall itself is as
> much as infinite...
Or possibly even negative if your builder's had one too many for lunch.
--
Skipweasel
Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes.
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Re: audi and kaipola ski jump advertisiement - climbing an icy hill
The message <wwozf.19774$_k2.332630@news2.nokia.com>
from "Risto Lankinen" <rlankine@hotmail.com> contains these words:
> For instance, the gradient of a ladder leaning against a wall can be
> several hundred %'s, and the gradient of an upright wall itself is as
> much as infinite...
Or possibly even negative if your builder's had one too many for lunch.
--
Skipweasel
Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes.
from "Risto Lankinen" <rlankine@hotmail.com> contains these words:
> For instance, the gradient of a ladder leaning against a wall can be
> several hundred %'s, and the gradient of an upright wall itself is as
> much as infinite...
Or possibly even negative if your builder's had one too many for lunch.
--
Skipweasel
Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes.
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Re: audi and kaipola ski jump advertisiement - climbing an icy hill
The message <wwozf.19774$_k2.332630@news2.nokia.com>
from "Risto Lankinen" <rlankine@hotmail.com> contains these words:
> For instance, the gradient of a ladder leaning against a wall can be
> several hundred %'s, and the gradient of an upright wall itself is as
> much as infinite...
Or possibly even negative if your builder's had one too many for lunch.
--
Skipweasel
Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes.
from "Risto Lankinen" <rlankine@hotmail.com> contains these words:
> For instance, the gradient of a ladder leaning against a wall can be
> several hundred %'s, and the gradient of an upright wall itself is as
> much as infinite...
Or possibly even negative if your builder's had one too many for lunch.
--
Skipweasel
Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes.
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Re: audi and kaipola ski jump advertisiement - climbing an icy hill
In article <uMnzf.715733$_o.133366@attbi_s71>, 223rem wrote:
>Tomes wrote:
>> "Alan Baker" <alangbaker@telus.net> wrote in message
>> news:alangbaker-88E5A5.19065317012006@news.telus.net...
>>
>>
>>>And the explains the problem:
>>>
>>>" is hard to believe that, after quite literally scaling new heights, he
>>>has just parked his Atlas Grey Audi A6 4.2 quattro 47 metres off the
>>>ground at an angle of 37.5 degrees and that is approximately equivalent
>>>to an 80 percent gradient."
>>>
>>>80%, not 80 degrees.
>>>
>>
>>
>> In a given distance it rises 80% of that distance.
>> Tomes
>
>So how did they get 0.8 from 37.5 degrees?
>Is that the tangent of the slope angle? It is close numerically, but
>it doesnt sound right, as it can exceed 100%. Or is the sinus? That
>doesnt match numerically with 0.8.
Percentage, as written down on the warning traffic signs (e.g.,
http://www.signaco.si/znaki/nevarno/nevar15s.gif and
http://www.signaco.si/znaki/nevarno/nevar16s.gif) is defined as the
vertical distance ascended (or descended) versus the horizontal distance
travelled, 100*b/a in the following diagram:
/|
/ |
c/ |b
/ |
/____|
a
This is the tangens of the angle between sides c and a. The gradient is
also given as 1:X, but this is just the fraction b/a written as 1a/b).
Here's a table of some gradients in degrees and percentages, both rounded
to 0 decimal places:
deg | perc.
===========
90 | infinity
45 | 100
31 | 60
30 | 58
27 | 50
17 | 30
14 | 25
6 | 10
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>Tomes wrote:
>> "Alan Baker" <alangbaker@telus.net> wrote in message
>> news:alangbaker-88E5A5.19065317012006@news.telus.net...
>>
>>
>>>And the explains the problem:
>>>
>>>" is hard to believe that, after quite literally scaling new heights, he
>>>has just parked his Atlas Grey Audi A6 4.2 quattro 47 metres off the
>>>ground at an angle of 37.5 degrees and that is approximately equivalent
>>>to an 80 percent gradient."
>>>
>>>80%, not 80 degrees.
>>>
>>
>>
>> In a given distance it rises 80% of that distance.
>> Tomes
>
>So how did they get 0.8 from 37.5 degrees?
>Is that the tangent of the slope angle? It is close numerically, but
>it doesnt sound right, as it can exceed 100%. Or is the sinus? That
>doesnt match numerically with 0.8.
Percentage, as written down on the warning traffic signs (e.g.,
http://www.signaco.si/znaki/nevarno/nevar15s.gif and
http://www.signaco.si/znaki/nevarno/nevar16s.gif) is defined as the
vertical distance ascended (or descended) versus the horizontal distance
travelled, 100*b/a in the following diagram:
/|
/ |
c/ |b
/ |
/____|
a
This is the tangens of the angle between sides c and a. The gradient is
also given as 1:X, but this is just the fraction b/a written as 1a/b).
Here's a table of some gradients in degrees and percentages, both rounded
to 0 decimal places:
deg | perc.
===========
90 | infinity
45 | 100
31 | 60
30 | 58
27 | 50
17 | 30
14 | 25
6 | 10
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Re: audi and kaipola ski jump advertisiement - climbing an icy hill
In article <uMnzf.715733$_o.133366@attbi_s71>, 223rem wrote:
>Tomes wrote:
>> "Alan Baker" <alangbaker@telus.net> wrote in message
>> news:alangbaker-88E5A5.19065317012006@news.telus.net...
>>
>>
>>>And the explains the problem:
>>>
>>>" is hard to believe that, after quite literally scaling new heights, he
>>>has just parked his Atlas Grey Audi A6 4.2 quattro 47 metres off the
>>>ground at an angle of 37.5 degrees and that is approximately equivalent
>>>to an 80 percent gradient."
>>>
>>>80%, not 80 degrees.
>>>
>>
>>
>> In a given distance it rises 80% of that distance.
>> Tomes
>
>So how did they get 0.8 from 37.5 degrees?
>Is that the tangent of the slope angle? It is close numerically, but
>it doesnt sound right, as it can exceed 100%. Or is the sinus? That
>doesnt match numerically with 0.8.
Percentage, as written down on the warning traffic signs (e.g.,
http://www.signaco.si/znaki/nevarno/nevar15s.gif and
http://www.signaco.si/znaki/nevarno/nevar16s.gif) is defined as the
vertical distance ascended (or descended) versus the horizontal distance
travelled, 100*b/a in the following diagram:
/|
/ |
c/ |b
/ |
/____|
a
This is the tangens of the angle between sides c and a. The gradient is
also given as 1:X, but this is just the fraction b/a written as 1a/b).
Here's a table of some gradients in degrees and percentages, both rounded
to 0 decimal places:
deg | perc.
===========
90 | infinity
45 | 100
31 | 60
30 | 58
27 | 50
17 | 30
14 | 25
6 | 10
--
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>Tomes wrote:
>> "Alan Baker" <alangbaker@telus.net> wrote in message
>> news:alangbaker-88E5A5.19065317012006@news.telus.net...
>>
>>
>>>And the explains the problem:
>>>
>>>" is hard to believe that, after quite literally scaling new heights, he
>>>has just parked his Atlas Grey Audi A6 4.2 quattro 47 metres off the
>>>ground at an angle of 37.5 degrees and that is approximately equivalent
>>>to an 80 percent gradient."
>>>
>>>80%, not 80 degrees.
>>>
>>
>>
>> In a given distance it rises 80% of that distance.
>> Tomes
>
>So how did they get 0.8 from 37.5 degrees?
>Is that the tangent of the slope angle? It is close numerically, but
>it doesnt sound right, as it can exceed 100%. Or is the sinus? That
>doesnt match numerically with 0.8.
Percentage, as written down on the warning traffic signs (e.g.,
http://www.signaco.si/znaki/nevarno/nevar15s.gif and
http://www.signaco.si/znaki/nevarno/nevar16s.gif) is defined as the
vertical distance ascended (or descended) versus the horizontal distance
travelled, 100*b/a in the following diagram:
/|
/ |
c/ |b
/ |
/____|
a
This is the tangens of the angle between sides c and a. The gradient is
also given as 1:X, but this is just the fraction b/a written as 1a/b).
Here's a table of some gradients in degrees and percentages, both rounded
to 0 decimal places:
deg | perc.
===========
90 | infinity
45 | 100
31 | 60
30 | 58
27 | 50
17 | 30
14 | 25
6 | 10
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Re: audi and kaipola ski jump advertisiement - climbing an icy hill
In article <uMnzf.715733$_o.133366@attbi_s71>, 223rem wrote:
>Tomes wrote:
>> "Alan Baker" <alangbaker@telus.net> wrote in message
>> news:alangbaker-88E5A5.19065317012006@news.telus.net...
>>
>>
>>>And the explains the problem:
>>>
>>>" is hard to believe that, after quite literally scaling new heights, he
>>>has just parked his Atlas Grey Audi A6 4.2 quattro 47 metres off the
>>>ground at an angle of 37.5 degrees and that is approximately equivalent
>>>to an 80 percent gradient."
>>>
>>>80%, not 80 degrees.
>>>
>>
>>
>> In a given distance it rises 80% of that distance.
>> Tomes
>
>So how did they get 0.8 from 37.5 degrees?
>Is that the tangent of the slope angle? It is close numerically, but
>it doesnt sound right, as it can exceed 100%. Or is the sinus? That
>doesnt match numerically with 0.8.
Percentage, as written down on the warning traffic signs (e.g.,
http://www.signaco.si/znaki/nevarno/nevar15s.gif and
http://www.signaco.si/znaki/nevarno/nevar16s.gif) is defined as the
vertical distance ascended (or descended) versus the horizontal distance
travelled, 100*b/a in the following diagram:
/|
/ |
c/ |b
/ |
/____|
a
This is the tangens of the angle between sides c and a. The gradient is
also given as 1:X, but this is just the fraction b/a written as 1a/b).
Here's a table of some gradients in degrees and percentages, both rounded
to 0 decimal places:
deg | perc.
===========
90 | infinity
45 | 100
31 | 60
30 | 58
27 | 50
17 | 30
14 | 25
6 | 10
--
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>Tomes wrote:
>> "Alan Baker" <alangbaker@telus.net> wrote in message
>> news:alangbaker-88E5A5.19065317012006@news.telus.net...
>>
>>
>>>And the explains the problem:
>>>
>>>" is hard to believe that, after quite literally scaling new heights, he
>>>has just parked his Atlas Grey Audi A6 4.2 quattro 47 metres off the
>>>ground at an angle of 37.5 degrees and that is approximately equivalent
>>>to an 80 percent gradient."
>>>
>>>80%, not 80 degrees.
>>>
>>
>>
>> In a given distance it rises 80% of that distance.
>> Tomes
>
>So how did they get 0.8 from 37.5 degrees?
>Is that the tangent of the slope angle? It is close numerically, but
>it doesnt sound right, as it can exceed 100%. Or is the sinus? That
>doesnt match numerically with 0.8.
Percentage, as written down on the warning traffic signs (e.g.,
http://www.signaco.si/znaki/nevarno/nevar15s.gif and
http://www.signaco.si/znaki/nevarno/nevar16s.gif) is defined as the
vertical distance ascended (or descended) versus the horizontal distance
travelled, 100*b/a in the following diagram:
/|
/ |
c/ |b
/ |
/____|
a
This is the tangens of the angle between sides c and a. The gradient is
also given as 1:X, but this is just the fraction b/a written as 1a/b).
Here's a table of some gradients in degrees and percentages, both rounded
to 0 decimal places:
deg | perc.
===========
90 | infinity
45 | 100
31 | 60
30 | 58
27 | 50
17 | 30
14 | 25
6 | 10
--
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Re: audi and kaipola ski jump advertisiement - climbing an icy hill
Pooh Bear, <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> was motivated to say
this in rec.autos.driving on Wed, 18 Jan 2006 01:41:37 +0000:
>
> 37.5 degrees actually.
38.66 degrees (assuming I did the trig right)...
this in rec.autos.driving on Wed, 18 Jan 2006 01:41:37 +0000:
>
> 37.5 degrees actually.
38.66 degrees (assuming I did the trig right)...
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Re: audi and kaipola ski jump advertisiement - climbing an icy hill
Pooh Bear, <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> was motivated to say
this in rec.autos.driving on Wed, 18 Jan 2006 01:41:37 +0000:
>
> 37.5 degrees actually.
38.66 degrees (assuming I did the trig right)...
this in rec.autos.driving on Wed, 18 Jan 2006 01:41:37 +0000:
>
> 37.5 degrees actually.
38.66 degrees (assuming I did the trig right)...
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Re: audi and kaipola ski jump advertisiement - climbing an icy hill
Pooh Bear, <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> was motivated to say
this in rec.autos.driving on Wed, 18 Jan 2006 01:41:37 +0000:
>
> 37.5 degrees actually.
38.66 degrees (assuming I did the trig right)...
this in rec.autos.driving on Wed, 18 Jan 2006 01:41:37 +0000:
>
> 37.5 degrees actually.
38.66 degrees (assuming I did the trig right)...
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Re: audi and kaipola ski jump advertisiement - climbing an icy hill
It's actually a lot of fun doing that!
We regularly used to take our Jeeps out to a local sand pit area before
it closed that is challenging in the summer and run it in the winter.
It is a blast and our 4x4's can climb wicked slopes in snow. Way more
than 37.5 degrees.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
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aniramca@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> Thanks for the correction. I checked the ad again, and it was 80%
> grade.
> 37.5 degrees is more likely! It is still very steep, though
>
> 223rem wrote:
> > Pooh Bear wrote:
> > >
> > > aniramca@yahoo.com wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >>I saw this advertisement from Audi on their second records on driving
> > >>up Kaipola ski jump in Finland. It was a rather impressive achievement
> > >>and photos. I could not believe that a car can climb a hill with slope
> > >>of 80 degrees,
> > >
> > >
> > > 37.5 degrees actually.
> >
> > I wonder if the AWD was really useful at that angle. RWD
> > should have been enough.
We regularly used to take our Jeeps out to a local sand pit area before
it closed that is challenging in the summer and run it in the winter.
It is a blast and our 4x4's can climb wicked slopes in snow. Way more
than 37.5 degrees.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
aniramca@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> Thanks for the correction. I checked the ad again, and it was 80%
> grade.
> 37.5 degrees is more likely! It is still very steep, though
>
> 223rem wrote:
> > Pooh Bear wrote:
> > >
> > > aniramca@yahoo.com wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >>I saw this advertisement from Audi on their second records on driving
> > >>up Kaipola ski jump in Finland. It was a rather impressive achievement
> > >>and photos. I could not believe that a car can climb a hill with slope
> > >>of 80 degrees,
> > >
> > >
> > > 37.5 degrees actually.
> >
> > I wonder if the AWD was really useful at that angle. RWD
> > should have been enough.