Audi certified engine oils
06-01-2006, 10:57 PM
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Re: Audi certified engine oils
"Pete" <escape2music@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Ed Pirrero"wrote
>> Or, more likely, those boutique oils really aren't any better than the
>> oils from the big companies, or they don't meet all the specifications.
>>
>> Shell Rotella synthetic at WalMart. Half the price of Mobil 1 (about)
>> and meets all the Audi turbo specs.
>
> Another reason could be that the Audi list which the OP was referring to
> was only listing some (and not all) oils, mainly those that are easily
> obtainable at most major auto parts stores rather than through mail order.
>
> As for Amsoil, they claim that their 5w-40 European Car Formula surpasses
> VW 502.00, 505.00, 505.01 specs and many others. But then again, the
> wording is such, that it doesn't clearly state whether it actually MEETS
> them. Amsoil makes good oil, despite their sometimes questionable
> marketing tactics, and I know this 5w-40 would do just fine in most VAG
> engines, but if it's not on the Audi list and your warranty is at stake,
> you'd better think twice.
>
This particular vehicle is already out
of warranty, so that is not an issue.
For the other two Audis we have that
are still under warranty we use Castrol
Syntec 10-40 in summer and Valvoline
SynPower 5W-40 in winter. Both are on
Audi's list.
There is quite a bit of empirical and
anecdotal evidence that suggests Mobil
One is inferior to both.
dk
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>
> "Ed Pirrero"wrote
>> Or, more likely, those boutique oils really aren't any better than the
>> oils from the big companies, or they don't meet all the specifications.
>>
>> Shell Rotella synthetic at WalMart. Half the price of Mobil 1 (about)
>> and meets all the Audi turbo specs.
>
> Another reason could be that the Audi list which the OP was referring to
> was only listing some (and not all) oils, mainly those that are easily
> obtainable at most major auto parts stores rather than through mail order.
>
> As for Amsoil, they claim that their 5w-40 European Car Formula surpasses
> VW 502.00, 505.00, 505.01 specs and many others. But then again, the
> wording is such, that it doesn't clearly state whether it actually MEETS
> them. Amsoil makes good oil, despite their sometimes questionable
> marketing tactics, and I know this 5w-40 would do just fine in most VAG
> engines, but if it's not on the Audi list and your warranty is at stake,
> you'd better think twice.
>
This particular vehicle is already out
of warranty, so that is not an issue.
For the other two Audis we have that
are still under warranty we use Castrol
Syntec 10-40 in summer and Valvoline
SynPower 5W-40 in winter. Both are on
Audi's list.
There is quite a bit of empirical and
anecdotal evidence that suggests Mobil
One is inferior to both.
dk
06-02-2006, 02:26 AM
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Re: Audi certified engine oils
Jon B wrote:
> I'm not sure about in the US but I know in the UK my local VW dealership
> will sell me the VW approved oil, for less than the local motor factors
> will a main brand. I can run VW Fully Synthetic [2] for about half the
> price of Mobil 1, or bog standard VW Mineral for less than the price of
> Catrol GTX, Duckhams etc.
> [2] Or Synta whatever it is branded.
I think you're thinking of Quantum Synta Gold, for the fully sythetic
one. Synta is a semi-synthetic (in a silver pack) GSF sell the quantum
range as well: I've just spent a lot of time trying to find a stockist
of Millers oils locally, and given up. I went to GSF and got the Synta
and Synta Gold. You're right: it's an absolute bargain. Obviously it
meets all the VW standards, and it's much cheaper than other brands.
> I'm not sure about in the US but I know in the UK my local VW dealership
> will sell me the VW approved oil, for less than the local motor factors
> will a main brand. I can run VW Fully Synthetic [2] for about half the
> price of Mobil 1, or bog standard VW Mineral for less than the price of
> Catrol GTX, Duckhams etc.
> [2] Or Synta whatever it is branded.
I think you're thinking of Quantum Synta Gold, for the fully sythetic
one. Synta is a semi-synthetic (in a silver pack) GSF sell the quantum
range as well: I've just spent a lot of time trying to find a stockist
of Millers oils locally, and given up. I went to GSF and got the Synta
and Synta Gold. You're right: it's an absolute bargain. Obviously it
meets all the VW standards, and it's much cheaper than other brands.
06-02-2006, 02:26 AM
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Re: Audi certified engine oils
Jon B wrote:
> I'm not sure about in the US but I know in the UK my local VW dealership
> will sell me the VW approved oil, for less than the local motor factors
> will a main brand. I can run VW Fully Synthetic [2] for about half the
> price of Mobil 1, or bog standard VW Mineral for less than the price of
> Catrol GTX, Duckhams etc.
> [2] Or Synta whatever it is branded.
I think you're thinking of Quantum Synta Gold, for the fully sythetic
one. Synta is a semi-synthetic (in a silver pack) GSF sell the quantum
range as well: I've just spent a lot of time trying to find a stockist
of Millers oils locally, and given up. I went to GSF and got the Synta
and Synta Gold. You're right: it's an absolute bargain. Obviously it
meets all the VW standards, and it's much cheaper than other brands.
> I'm not sure about in the US but I know in the UK my local VW dealership
> will sell me the VW approved oil, for less than the local motor factors
> will a main brand. I can run VW Fully Synthetic [2] for about half the
> price of Mobil 1, or bog standard VW Mineral for less than the price of
> Catrol GTX, Duckhams etc.
> [2] Or Synta whatever it is branded.
I think you're thinking of Quantum Synta Gold, for the fully sythetic
one. Synta is a semi-synthetic (in a silver pack) GSF sell the quantum
range as well: I've just spent a lot of time trying to find a stockist
of Millers oils locally, and given up. I went to GSF and got the Synta
and Synta Gold. You're right: it's an absolute bargain. Obviously it
meets all the VW standards, and it's much cheaper than other brands.
06-02-2006, 02:26 AM
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Re: Audi certified engine oils
Jon B wrote:
> I'm not sure about in the US but I know in the UK my local VW dealership
> will sell me the VW approved oil, for less than the local motor factors
> will a main brand. I can run VW Fully Synthetic [2] for about half the
> price of Mobil 1, or bog standard VW Mineral for less than the price of
> Catrol GTX, Duckhams etc.
> [2] Or Synta whatever it is branded.
I think you're thinking of Quantum Synta Gold, for the fully sythetic
one. Synta is a semi-synthetic (in a silver pack) GSF sell the quantum
range as well: I've just spent a lot of time trying to find a stockist
of Millers oils locally, and given up. I went to GSF and got the Synta
and Synta Gold. You're right: it's an absolute bargain. Obviously it
meets all the VW standards, and it's much cheaper than other brands.
> I'm not sure about in the US but I know in the UK my local VW dealership
> will sell me the VW approved oil, for less than the local motor factors
> will a main brand. I can run VW Fully Synthetic [2] for about half the
> price of Mobil 1, or bog standard VW Mineral for less than the price of
> Catrol GTX, Duckhams etc.
> [2] Or Synta whatever it is branded.
I think you're thinking of Quantum Synta Gold, for the fully sythetic
one. Synta is a semi-synthetic (in a silver pack) GSF sell the quantum
range as well: I've just spent a lot of time trying to find a stockist
of Millers oils locally, and given up. I went to GSF and got the Synta
and Synta Gold. You're right: it's an absolute bargain. Obviously it
meets all the VW standards, and it's much cheaper than other brands.
06-02-2006, 02:26 AM
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Re: Audi certified engine oils
Jon B wrote:
> I'm not sure about in the US but I know in the UK my local VW dealership
> will sell me the VW approved oil, for less than the local motor factors
> will a main brand. I can run VW Fully Synthetic [2] for about half the
> price of Mobil 1, or bog standard VW Mineral for less than the price of
> Catrol GTX, Duckhams etc.
> [2] Or Synta whatever it is branded.
I think you're thinking of Quantum Synta Gold, for the fully sythetic
one. Synta is a semi-synthetic (in a silver pack) GSF sell the quantum
range as well: I've just spent a lot of time trying to find a stockist
of Millers oils locally, and given up. I went to GSF and got the Synta
and Synta Gold. You're right: it's an absolute bargain. Obviously it
meets all the VW standards, and it's much cheaper than other brands.
> I'm not sure about in the US but I know in the UK my local VW dealership
> will sell me the VW approved oil, for less than the local motor factors
> will a main brand. I can run VW Fully Synthetic [2] for about half the
> price of Mobil 1, or bog standard VW Mineral for less than the price of
> Catrol GTX, Duckhams etc.
> [2] Or Synta whatever it is branded.
I think you're thinking of Quantum Synta Gold, for the fully sythetic
one. Synta is a semi-synthetic (in a silver pack) GSF sell the quantum
range as well: I've just spent a lot of time trying to find a stockist
of Millers oils locally, and given up. I went to GSF and got the Synta
and Synta Gold. You're right: it's an absolute bargain. Obviously it
meets all the VW standards, and it's much cheaper than other brands.
06-02-2006, 04:09 AM
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Re: Audi certified engine oils
Chris Bartram <news@delete-me.piglet-net.net> wrote:
> Jon B wrote:
>
> > I'm not sure about in the US but I know in the UK my local VW dealership
> > will sell me the VW approved oil, for less than the local motor factors
> > will a main brand. I can run VW Fully Synthetic [2] for about half the
> > price of Mobil 1, or bog standard VW Mineral for less than the price of
> > Catrol GTX, Duckhams etc.
>
>
> > [2] Or Synta whatever it is branded.
>
>
> I think you're thinking of Quantum Synta Gold, for the fully sythetic
> one. Synta is a semi-synthetic (in a silver pack) GSF sell the quantum
> range as well: I've just spent a lot of time trying to find a stockist
> of Millers oils locally, and given up. I went to GSF and got the Synta
> and Synta Gold. You're right: it's an absolute bargain. Obviously it
> meets all the VW standards, and it's much cheaper than other brands.
Yes, and as there are only about five [1] manufacturers of oil, you know
the Quantum oil is just somebody elses rebranded [2], or a slightly
different blend with less additives.
I have been told in the past the Gold is just Mobil 1 though, not sure
how much truth there was to that though.
[1] Or was it three, theres only a handful of brake disc manufacturers
too, and I can never remember which way round the figures are now.
[2] Halford cheapo mineral oil is Duckhams for eg.
--
Jon B
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> Jon B wrote:
>
> > I'm not sure about in the US but I know in the UK my local VW dealership
> > will sell me the VW approved oil, for less than the local motor factors
> > will a main brand. I can run VW Fully Synthetic [2] for about half the
> > price of Mobil 1, or bog standard VW Mineral for less than the price of
> > Catrol GTX, Duckhams etc.
>
>
> > [2] Or Synta whatever it is branded.
>
>
> I think you're thinking of Quantum Synta Gold, for the fully sythetic
> one. Synta is a semi-synthetic (in a silver pack) GSF sell the quantum
> range as well: I've just spent a lot of time trying to find a stockist
> of Millers oils locally, and given up. I went to GSF and got the Synta
> and Synta Gold. You're right: it's an absolute bargain. Obviously it
> meets all the VW standards, and it's much cheaper than other brands.
Yes, and as there are only about five [1] manufacturers of oil, you know
the Quantum oil is just somebody elses rebranded [2], or a slightly
different blend with less additives.
I have been told in the past the Gold is just Mobil 1 though, not sure
how much truth there was to that though.
[1] Or was it three, theres only a handful of brake disc manufacturers
too, and I can never remember which way round the figures are now.
[2] Halford cheapo mineral oil is Duckhams for eg.
--
Jon B
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<http://www.bramley-computers.co.uk/> Apple Laptop Repairs.
06-02-2006, 04:09 AM
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Re: Audi certified engine oils
Chris Bartram <news@delete-me.piglet-net.net> wrote:
> Jon B wrote:
>
> > I'm not sure about in the US but I know in the UK my local VW dealership
> > will sell me the VW approved oil, for less than the local motor factors
> > will a main brand. I can run VW Fully Synthetic [2] for about half the
> > price of Mobil 1, or bog standard VW Mineral for less than the price of
> > Catrol GTX, Duckhams etc.
>
>
> > [2] Or Synta whatever it is branded.
>
>
> I think you're thinking of Quantum Synta Gold, for the fully sythetic
> one. Synta is a semi-synthetic (in a silver pack) GSF sell the quantum
> range as well: I've just spent a lot of time trying to find a stockist
> of Millers oils locally, and given up. I went to GSF and got the Synta
> and Synta Gold. You're right: it's an absolute bargain. Obviously it
> meets all the VW standards, and it's much cheaper than other brands.
Yes, and as there are only about five [1] manufacturers of oil, you know
the Quantum oil is just somebody elses rebranded [2], or a slightly
different blend with less additives.
I have been told in the past the Gold is just Mobil 1 though, not sure
how much truth there was to that though.
[1] Or was it three, theres only a handful of brake disc manufacturers
too, and I can never remember which way round the figures are now.
[2] Halford cheapo mineral oil is Duckhams for eg.
--
Jon B
Above email address IS valid.
<http://www.bramley-computers.co.uk/> Apple Laptop Repairs.
> Jon B wrote:
>
> > I'm not sure about in the US but I know in the UK my local VW dealership
> > will sell me the VW approved oil, for less than the local motor factors
> > will a main brand. I can run VW Fully Synthetic [2] for about half the
> > price of Mobil 1, or bog standard VW Mineral for less than the price of
> > Catrol GTX, Duckhams etc.
>
>
> > [2] Or Synta whatever it is branded.
>
>
> I think you're thinking of Quantum Synta Gold, for the fully sythetic
> one. Synta is a semi-synthetic (in a silver pack) GSF sell the quantum
> range as well: I've just spent a lot of time trying to find a stockist
> of Millers oils locally, and given up. I went to GSF and got the Synta
> and Synta Gold. You're right: it's an absolute bargain. Obviously it
> meets all the VW standards, and it's much cheaper than other brands.
Yes, and as there are only about five [1] manufacturers of oil, you know
the Quantum oil is just somebody elses rebranded [2], or a slightly
different blend with less additives.
I have been told in the past the Gold is just Mobil 1 though, not sure
how much truth there was to that though.
[1] Or was it three, theres only a handful of brake disc manufacturers
too, and I can never remember which way round the figures are now.
[2] Halford cheapo mineral oil is Duckhams for eg.
--
Jon B
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<http://www.bramley-computers.co.uk/> Apple Laptop Repairs.
06-02-2006, 04:09 AM
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Re: Audi certified engine oils
Chris Bartram <news@delete-me.piglet-net.net> wrote:
> Jon B wrote:
>
> > I'm not sure about in the US but I know in the UK my local VW dealership
> > will sell me the VW approved oil, for less than the local motor factors
> > will a main brand. I can run VW Fully Synthetic [2] for about half the
> > price of Mobil 1, or bog standard VW Mineral for less than the price of
> > Catrol GTX, Duckhams etc.
>
>
> > [2] Or Synta whatever it is branded.
>
>
> I think you're thinking of Quantum Synta Gold, for the fully sythetic
> one. Synta is a semi-synthetic (in a silver pack) GSF sell the quantum
> range as well: I've just spent a lot of time trying to find a stockist
> of Millers oils locally, and given up. I went to GSF and got the Synta
> and Synta Gold. You're right: it's an absolute bargain. Obviously it
> meets all the VW standards, and it's much cheaper than other brands.
Yes, and as there are only about five [1] manufacturers of oil, you know
the Quantum oil is just somebody elses rebranded [2], or a slightly
different blend with less additives.
I have been told in the past the Gold is just Mobil 1 though, not sure
how much truth there was to that though.
[1] Or was it three, theres only a handful of brake disc manufacturers
too, and I can never remember which way round the figures are now.
[2] Halford cheapo mineral oil is Duckhams for eg.
--
Jon B
Above email address IS valid.
<http://www.bramley-computers.co.uk/> Apple Laptop Repairs.
> Jon B wrote:
>
> > I'm not sure about in the US but I know in the UK my local VW dealership
> > will sell me the VW approved oil, for less than the local motor factors
> > will a main brand. I can run VW Fully Synthetic [2] for about half the
> > price of Mobil 1, or bog standard VW Mineral for less than the price of
> > Catrol GTX, Duckhams etc.
>
>
> > [2] Or Synta whatever it is branded.
>
>
> I think you're thinking of Quantum Synta Gold, for the fully sythetic
> one. Synta is a semi-synthetic (in a silver pack) GSF sell the quantum
> range as well: I've just spent a lot of time trying to find a stockist
> of Millers oils locally, and given up. I went to GSF and got the Synta
> and Synta Gold. You're right: it's an absolute bargain. Obviously it
> meets all the VW standards, and it's much cheaper than other brands.
Yes, and as there are only about five [1] manufacturers of oil, you know
the Quantum oil is just somebody elses rebranded [2], or a slightly
different blend with less additives.
I have been told in the past the Gold is just Mobil 1 though, not sure
how much truth there was to that though.
[1] Or was it three, theres only a handful of brake disc manufacturers
too, and I can never remember which way round the figures are now.
[2] Halford cheapo mineral oil is Duckhams for eg.
--
Jon B
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<http://www.bramley-computers.co.uk/> Apple Laptop Repairs.
06-02-2006, 04:09 AM
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Re: Audi certified engine oils
Chris Bartram <news@delete-me.piglet-net.net> wrote:
> Jon B wrote:
>
> > I'm not sure about in the US but I know in the UK my local VW dealership
> > will sell me the VW approved oil, for less than the local motor factors
> > will a main brand. I can run VW Fully Synthetic [2] for about half the
> > price of Mobil 1, or bog standard VW Mineral for less than the price of
> > Catrol GTX, Duckhams etc.
>
>
> > [2] Or Synta whatever it is branded.
>
>
> I think you're thinking of Quantum Synta Gold, for the fully sythetic
> one. Synta is a semi-synthetic (in a silver pack) GSF sell the quantum
> range as well: I've just spent a lot of time trying to find a stockist
> of Millers oils locally, and given up. I went to GSF and got the Synta
> and Synta Gold. You're right: it's an absolute bargain. Obviously it
> meets all the VW standards, and it's much cheaper than other brands.
Yes, and as there are only about five [1] manufacturers of oil, you know
the Quantum oil is just somebody elses rebranded [2], or a slightly
different blend with less additives.
I have been told in the past the Gold is just Mobil 1 though, not sure
how much truth there was to that though.
[1] Or was it three, theres only a handful of brake disc manufacturers
too, and I can never remember which way round the figures are now.
[2] Halford cheapo mineral oil is Duckhams for eg.
--
Jon B
Above email address IS valid.
<http://www.bramley-computers.co.uk/> Apple Laptop Repairs.
> Jon B wrote:
>
> > I'm not sure about in the US but I know in the UK my local VW dealership
> > will sell me the VW approved oil, for less than the local motor factors
> > will a main brand. I can run VW Fully Synthetic [2] for about half the
> > price of Mobil 1, or bog standard VW Mineral for less than the price of
> > Catrol GTX, Duckhams etc.
>
>
> > [2] Or Synta whatever it is branded.
>
>
> I think you're thinking of Quantum Synta Gold, for the fully sythetic
> one. Synta is a semi-synthetic (in a silver pack) GSF sell the quantum
> range as well: I've just spent a lot of time trying to find a stockist
> of Millers oils locally, and given up. I went to GSF and got the Synta
> and Synta Gold. You're right: it's an absolute bargain. Obviously it
> meets all the VW standards, and it's much cheaper than other brands.
Yes, and as there are only about five [1] manufacturers of oil, you know
the Quantum oil is just somebody elses rebranded [2], or a slightly
different blend with less additives.
I have been told in the past the Gold is just Mobil 1 though, not sure
how much truth there was to that though.
[1] Or was it three, theres only a handful of brake disc manufacturers
too, and I can never remember which way round the figures are now.
[2] Halford cheapo mineral oil is Duckhams for eg.
--
Jon B
Above email address IS valid.
<http://www.bramley-computers.co.uk/> Apple Laptop Repairs.
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