eko

"Kai Rode" <nikkit@web.de> wrote in message
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> >1.8T
> >
> >
> >Dont think about it! The 1.6 engine will just disapoint you it is to
> >weak.
>
> There ia no longer a 1.8T for the new A3. There's 1.6, 1.6 FSI, 2.0 FSI,
V6
> and a planned 2.0 TSI (the 2.0 FSI with turbo). Plus the diesel engines of
> course.

I did test drive the 1.6 car, and it's not exactly a rocket by any means. I
think it was okay though, especially coming from my Peugeot 206 1.4..

Cheers!
...Ray




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Nils Rothe

In my country the cost of the insurance doesn' t depend on the fuel
economy but on the number of HP (or KW).


On Sun, 7 Sep 2003 18:29:00 +0100, "eko" <eko@NO_SPAM_k-chan.net>
wrote:

>Thanks Nils. I haven't check thoroughly with my insurance company just yet,
>but will the FSI yield a better insurance premium because of it's fuel
>economy?
>
>Thanks.
>..Ray
>
>
>
>
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Toby Groves

In article <3f5b6a96$1_2@127.0.0.1>, eko <eko@NO_SPAM_k-chan.net> writes
>Thanks Toby. 2000 Euros is quite a bit for the difference in bhp and 6
>gears. With the FSI, would I need to use ultra-low sulpher fuel, like Shell
>Pura to gain the better fuel economy? Will have to calculate it up to see
>if I'd be saving anything going with the FSI rather than standard 1.6.

I doubt you'd have to use a specific type of fuel to get better economy,
as I believe the economic nature of the FSI comes from the design of the
engine itself, thus it should yield better economy than the standard 1.6
with any given type of fuel.

Out of interest, how much more would the 2.0TDI cost over the 1.6?
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Toby Groves

In article <3f5b6be9_2@127.0.0.1>, eko <eko@NO_SPAM_k-chan.net> writes
>Oh, one more thing.. there are no extras bits for the money. The 2000 extra
>pays for just the FSI engine difference.

The difference in the UK is £460!, inc. VAT!
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eko

"Toby Groves" <news@iconia.org.uk> wrote in message
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> In article <3f5b6a96$1_2@127.0.0.1>, eko <eko@NO_SPAM_k-chan.net> writes
> >Thanks Toby. 2000 Euros is quite a bit for the difference in bhp and 6
> >gears. With the FSI, would I need to use ultra-low sulpher fuel, like
Shell
> >Pura to gain the better fuel economy? Will have to calculate it up to
see
> >if I'd be saving anything going with the FSI rather than standard 1.6.
>
> I doubt you'd have to use a specific type of fuel to get better economy,
> as I believe the economic nature of the FSI comes from the design of the
> engine itself, thus it should yield better economy than the standard 1.6
> with any given type of fuel.
>
> Out of interest, how much more would the 2.0TDI cost over the 1.6?

The difference between the 1.6 and the 2.0 TDI is about 6550 Euros. Seems
quite a lot.. what is it there?

..Ray




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eko

"Toby Groves" <news@iconia.org.uk> wrote in message
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> In article <3f5b6be9_2@127.0.0.1>, eko <eko@NO_SPAM_k-chan.net> writes
> >Oh, one more thing.. there are no extras bits for the money. The 2000
extra
> >pays for just the FSI engine difference.
>
> The difference in the UK is £460!, inc. VAT!

Wow! Will have to talk to the dealer on that one! Ireland does have some
crazy vehicle registration taxes, but the difference here is quite
significant.

...Ray




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Toby Groves

In article <3f5c4a1c$1_1@127.0.0.1>, eko <eko@no_spam_k-chan.net> writes
>"Toby Groves" <news@iconia.org.uk> wrote in message
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>> In article <3f5b6be9_2@127.0.0.1>, eko <eko@NO_SPAM_k-chan.net> writes
>> >Oh, one more thing.. there are no extras bits for the money. The 2000
>extra
>> >pays for just the FSI engine difference.
>>
>> The difference in the UK is £460!, inc. VAT!
>
>Wow! Will have to talk to the dealer on that one! Ireland does have some
>crazy vehicle registration taxes, but the difference here is quite
>significant.

Here's the UK price list:

http://www.audi.co.uk/downloads/A3_Price_List.pdf

I'd suggest taking a copy of that to your dealer, or maybe even
investigating ordering one from here.
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Toby Groves

In article <3f5c49e5$1_1@127.0.0.1>, eko <eko@no_spam_k-chan.net> writes
>"Toby Groves" <news@iconia.org.uk> wrote in message
>news:Xt0GCjAG74W$EwVo@iconia.org.uk...
>> In article <3f5b6a96$1_2@127.0.0.1>, eko <eko@NO_SPAM_k-chan.net> writes
>> >Thanks Toby. 2000 Euros is quite a bit for the difference in bhp and 6
>> >gears. With the FSI, would I need to use ultra-low sulpher fuel, like
>Shell
>> >Pura to gain the better fuel economy? Will have to calculate it up to
>see
>> >if I'd be saving anything going with the FSI rather than standard 1.6.
>>
>> I doubt you'd have to use a specific type of fuel to get better economy,
>> as I believe the economic nature of the FSI comes from the design of the
>> engine itself, thus it should yield better economy than the standard 1.6
>> with any given type of fuel.
>>
>> Out of interest, how much more would the 2.0TDI cost over the 1.6?
>
>The difference between the 1.6 and the 2.0 TDI is about 6550 Euros. Seems
>quite a lot.. what is it there?

£2020 according to the official price list, which at the current
exchange rate of 1.37 works out at 2767 Euros!
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eko

> >Wow! Will have to talk to the dealer on that one! Ireland does have
some
> >crazy vehicle registration taxes, but the difference here is quite
> >significant.
>
> Here's the UK price list:
>
> http://www.audi.co.uk/downloads/A3_Price_List.pdf
>
> I'd suggest taking a copy of that to your dealer, or maybe even
> investigating ordering one from here.

Thanks Toby. Phoned the dealer there, he mentioned something about market
differences, exchange rate, negotiations by Audi Ireland with Audi in
Germany etc.

So the price difference holds, though I was wrong about it before.. it's a
difference of 1705 Euros, not 2000 as I said. He said that if I was
interested I could get it down to 1500 Euro difference.

Question now is.. is it worth the extra money? There is a difference of 13
bhp, is that a lot when it comes to engine power? Fuel economy.. is it
significant I wonder? He mentioned again that I'd only get full benefits
from FSI using Shell Pura or similar low sulphur fuel.. you already
mentioned in this thread that this is not true. Here, Pura is about 10 cent
or so money expensive per litre.

On ordering from the UK.. Ireland has some strict registration taxes on
importing, which negates any advantage of buying from the UK at all (in some
cases, it can end up being more expensive). I guess that's why Audi Ireland
are charging what they are anyway. Was a good idea though.

Sorry for the "newbie" questions, just learning as I'm going along I'm
afraid..

Thanks!
...Ray




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eko

"Toby Groves" <news@iconia.org.uk> wrote in message
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> >So the price difference holds, though I was wrong about it before.. it's
a
> >difference of 1705 Euros, not 2000 as I said. He said that if I was
> >interested I could get it down to 1500 Euro difference.
>
> Still a hell of a difference, I thought prices in the UK were bad!

Well, nowhere near as bad as they are here I'm afraid..

> He may be right about the need for low sulphur fuel to get the best out
> of it, as I'm no expert. I'd still think you'd get some benefit from
> the FSI even with standard fuel though, but I may be wrong.

I'll do some more research on this one. I've got the sales guy down to 800
Euro extra for the FSI, so will be going for that model now.

> No probs, glad to help with the UK comparative pricing, but you may find
> the more technical queries are better answered by others here with more
> knowledge than I.

Still, thanks for your help, it was much appreciated.

Cheers!
...Ray




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