Audi A3.. 1.6 or 1.6 FSI..?
08-29-2003, 09:55 AM
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Audi A3.. 1.6 or 1.6 FSI..?
Hi,
I've been thinking of getting a new 2003 Audi A3 1.6. I know there will be
a 1.6 FSI model going into production around October. The price difference
where I am (Ireland) between the two models is about 2000 Euros, which to me
is quite a bit for a 5 BHP difference.
Of course, you do apparently get a "leaner-burning" engine and better miles
per gallon. What do you guys think.. is it worth the extra money?
Any insight appreciated.. cheers!
...Ray
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I've been thinking of getting a new 2003 Audi A3 1.6. I know there will be
a 1.6 FSI model going into production around October. The price difference
where I am (Ireland) between the two models is about 2000 Euros, which to me
is quite a bit for a 5 BHP difference.
Of course, you do apparently get a "leaner-burning" engine and better miles
per gallon. What do you guys think.. is it worth the extra money?
Any insight appreciated.. cheers!
...Ray
ekoSheren inc. awaits..
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09-06-2003, 02:54 AM
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Re: Audi A3.. 1.6 or 1.6 FSI..?
In article <3f4f6953$1_1@127.0.0.1>, eko <eko@no_spam_k-chan.net> writes
>Hi,
>
>I've been thinking of getting a new 2003 Audi A3 1.6. I know there will be
>a 1.6 FSI model going into production around October. The price difference
>where I am (Ireland) between the two models is about 2000 Euros, which to me
>is quite a bit for a 5 BHP difference.
>
>Of course, you do apparently get a "leaner-burning" engine and better miles
>per gallon. What do you guys think.. is it worth the extra money?
>
>Any insight appreciated.. cheers!
2000 Euros sounds like a hell of a big premium just for the FSI version
of the 1.6, especially if it's only got an extra 5bhp.
I'd check the economy figures carefully and try to estimate how much
you'll actually save. Also, are you sure the FSI won't come with some
extra options included in the price, to justify that 2000?
I'm planning on getting an A3 myself, but it will be the diesel.
--
Toby
>Hi,
>
>I've been thinking of getting a new 2003 Audi A3 1.6. I know there will be
>a 1.6 FSI model going into production around October. The price difference
>where I am (Ireland) between the two models is about 2000 Euros, which to me
>is quite a bit for a 5 BHP difference.
>
>Of course, you do apparently get a "leaner-burning" engine and better miles
>per gallon. What do you guys think.. is it worth the extra money?
>
>Any insight appreciated.. cheers!
2000 Euros sounds like a hell of a big premium just for the FSI version
of the 1.6, especially if it's only got an extra 5bhp.
I'd check the economy figures carefully and try to estimate how much
you'll actually save. Also, are you sure the FSI won't come with some
extra options included in the price, to justify that 2000?
I'm planning on getting an A3 myself, but it will be the diesel.
--
Toby
09-06-2003, 04:57 AM
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Re: Audi A3.. 1.6 or 1.6 FSI..?
>2000 Euros sounds like a hell of a big premium just for the FSI version
>of the 1.6, especially if it's only got an extra 5bhp.
In Germany, the difference is only €1250. I don't know if or why its more in
other countries.
Also, the difference is not 5 horsepowers, but 10 kW (about 13 bhp I think)
ant the FSI has 6 gears.
Kai
>of the 1.6, especially if it's only got an extra 5bhp.
In Germany, the difference is only €1250. I don't know if or why its more in
other countries.
Also, the difference is not 5 horsepowers, but 10 kW (about 13 bhp I think)
ant the FSI has 6 gears.
Kai
09-06-2003, 02:06 PM
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Re: Audi A3.. 1.6 or 1.6 FSI..?
On Sat, 06 Sep 2003 07:54:01 GMT, "Toby Groves" <news@iconia.org.uk>
wrote:
>In article <3f4f6953$1_1@127.0.0.1>, eko <eko@no_spam_k-chan.net> writes
>>Hi,
>>
>>I've been thinking of getting a new 2003 Audi A3 1.6. I know there will be
>>a 1.6 FSI model going into production around October. The price difference
>>where I am (Ireland) between the two models is about 2000 Euros, which to me
>>is quite a bit for a 5 BHP difference.
>>
>>Of course, you do apparently get a "leaner-burning" engine and better miles
>>per gallon. What do you guys think.. is it worth the extra money?
>>
>>Any insight appreciated.. cheers!
>
>2000 Euros sounds like a hell of a big premium just for the FSI version
>of the 1.6, especially if it's only got an extra 5bhp.
>
>I'd check the economy figures carefully and try to estimate how much
>you'll actually save. Also, are you sure the FSI won't come with some
>extra options included in the price, to justify that 2000?
>
>I'm planning on getting an A3 myself, but it will be the diesel.
Hi.
Don't forget about the cost of the insurance and also the taxes.
Sometimes a car seems to be cheap and than...
NilsR
wrote:
>In article <3f4f6953$1_1@127.0.0.1>, eko <eko@no_spam_k-chan.net> writes
>>Hi,
>>
>>I've been thinking of getting a new 2003 Audi A3 1.6. I know there will be
>>a 1.6 FSI model going into production around October. The price difference
>>where I am (Ireland) between the two models is about 2000 Euros, which to me
>>is quite a bit for a 5 BHP difference.
>>
>>Of course, you do apparently get a "leaner-burning" engine and better miles
>>per gallon. What do you guys think.. is it worth the extra money?
>>
>>Any insight appreciated.. cheers!
>
>2000 Euros sounds like a hell of a big premium just for the FSI version
>of the 1.6, especially if it's only got an extra 5bhp.
>
>I'd check the economy figures carefully and try to estimate how much
>you'll actually save. Also, are you sure the FSI won't come with some
>extra options included in the price, to justify that 2000?
>
>I'm planning on getting an A3 myself, but it will be the diesel.
Hi.
Don't forget about the cost of the insurance and also the taxes.
Sometimes a car seems to be cheap and than...
NilsR
09-06-2003, 06:01 PM
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Re: Audi A3.. 1.6 or 1.6 FSI..?
In article <8sbjlvolf954osfe93kp1u10fphdth43on@news.individua l.de>, Kai
Rode <nikkit@web.de> writes
>>2000 Euros sounds like a hell of a big premium just for the FSI version
>>of the 1.6, especially if it's only got an extra 5bhp.
>
>In Germany, the difference is only €1250. I don't know if or why its more in
>other countries.
>
>Also, the difference is not 5 horsepowers, but 10 kW (about 13 bhp I think)
>ant the FSI has 6 gears.
13bhp, better economy & a 6sp box sounds more like it.
--
Toby
Rode <nikkit@web.de> writes
>>2000 Euros sounds like a hell of a big premium just for the FSI version
>>of the 1.6, especially if it's only got an extra 5bhp.
>
>In Germany, the difference is only €1250. I don't know if or why its more in
>other countries.
>
>Also, the difference is not 5 horsepowers, but 10 kW (about 13 bhp I think)
>ant the FSI has 6 gears.
13bhp, better economy & a 6sp box sounds more like it.
--
Toby
09-06-2003, 06:01 PM
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Re: Audi A3.. 1.6 or 1.6 FSI..?
In article <qobklvko07k2oeovfubsenc45qatacvg5d@4ax.com>, Nils Rothe
<nils.rothe@gmx.de> writes
>On Sat, 06 Sep 2003 07:54:01 GMT, "Toby Groves" <news@iconia.org.uk>
>wrote:
>
>>In article <3f4f6953$1_1@127.0.0.1>, eko <eko@no_spam_k-chan.net> writes
>>>Hi,
>>>
>>>I've been thinking of getting a new 2003 Audi A3 1.6. I know there will be
>>>a 1.6 FSI model going into production around October. The price difference
>>>where I am (Ireland) between the two models is about 2000 Euros, which to me
>>>is quite a bit for a 5 BHP difference.
>>>
>>>Of course, you do apparently get a "leaner-burning" engine and better miles
>>>per gallon. What do you guys think.. is it worth the extra money?
>>>
>>>Any insight appreciated.. cheers!
>>
>>2000 Euros sounds like a hell of a big premium just for the FSI version
>>of the 1.6, especially if it's only got an extra 5bhp.
>>
>>I'd check the economy figures carefully and try to estimate how much
>>you'll actually save. Also, are you sure the FSI won't come with some
>>extra options included in the price, to justify that 2000?
>>
>>I'm planning on getting an A3 myself, but it will be the diesel.
>
>Hi.
>
>Don't forget about the cost of the insurance and also the taxes.
>Sometimes a car seems to be cheap and than...
Well mine will be a company car, so I don't care about insurance
--
Toby
<nils.rothe@gmx.de> writes
>On Sat, 06 Sep 2003 07:54:01 GMT, "Toby Groves" <news@iconia.org.uk>
>wrote:
>
>>In article <3f4f6953$1_1@127.0.0.1>, eko <eko@no_spam_k-chan.net> writes
>>>Hi,
>>>
>>>I've been thinking of getting a new 2003 Audi A3 1.6. I know there will be
>>>a 1.6 FSI model going into production around October. The price difference
>>>where I am (Ireland) between the two models is about 2000 Euros, which to me
>>>is quite a bit for a 5 BHP difference.
>>>
>>>Of course, you do apparently get a "leaner-burning" engine and better miles
>>>per gallon. What do you guys think.. is it worth the extra money?
>>>
>>>Any insight appreciated.. cheers!
>>
>>2000 Euros sounds like a hell of a big premium just for the FSI version
>>of the 1.6, especially if it's only got an extra 5bhp.
>>
>>I'd check the economy figures carefully and try to estimate how much
>>you'll actually save. Also, are you sure the FSI won't come with some
>>extra options included in the price, to justify that 2000?
>>
>>I'm planning on getting an A3 myself, but it will be the diesel.
>
>Hi.
>
>Don't forget about the cost of the insurance and also the taxes.
>Sometimes a car seems to be cheap and than...
Well mine will be a company car, so I don't care about insurance
--
Toby
09-07-2003, 02:15 AM
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Re: Audi A3.. 1.6 or 1.6 FSI..?
>1.8T
>
>
>Dont think about it! The 1.6 engine will just disapoint you it is to
>weak.
There ia no longer a 1.8T for the new A3. There's 1.6, 1.6 FSI, 2.0 FSI, V6
and a planned 2.0 TSI (the 2.0 FSI with turbo). Plus the diesel engines of
course.
>
>
>Dont think about it!
The 1.6 engine will just disapoint you it is to>weak.
There ia no longer a 1.8T for the new A3. There's 1.6, 1.6 FSI, 2.0 FSI, V6
and a planned 2.0 TSI (the 2.0 FSI with turbo). Plus the diesel engines of
course.
09-07-2003, 12:27 PM
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Re: Audi A3.. 1.6 or 1.6 FSI..?
"Toby Groves" <news@iconia.org.uk> wrote in message
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> In article <3f4f6953$1_1@127.0.0.1>, eko <eko@no_spam_k-chan.net> writes
> >Hi,
> >
> >I've been thinking of getting a new 2003 Audi A3 1.6. I know there will
be
> >a 1.6 FSI model going into production around October. The price
difference
> >where I am (Ireland) between the two models is about 2000 Euros, which to
me
> >is quite a bit for a 5 BHP difference.
> >
> >Of course, you do apparently get a "leaner-burning" engine and better
miles
> >per gallon. What do you guys think.. is it worth the extra money?
> >
> >Any insight appreciated.. cheers!
>
> 2000 Euros sounds like a hell of a big premium just for the FSI version
> of the 1.6, especially if it's only got an extra 5bhp.
>
> I'd check the economy figures carefully and try to estimate how much
> you'll actually save. Also, are you sure the FSI won't come with some
> extra options included in the price, to justify that 2000?
>
> I'm planning on getting an A3 myself, but it will be the diesel.
Thanks Toby. 2000 Euros is quite a bit for the difference in bhp and 6
gears. With the FSI, would I need to use ultra-low sulpher fuel, like Shell
Pura to gain the better fuel economy? Will have to calculate it up to see
if I'd be saving anything going with the FSI rather than standard 1.6.
...Ray
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> In article <3f4f6953$1_1@127.0.0.1>, eko <eko@no_spam_k-chan.net> writes
> >Hi,
> >
> >I've been thinking of getting a new 2003 Audi A3 1.6. I know there will
be
> >a 1.6 FSI model going into production around October. The price
difference
> >where I am (Ireland) between the two models is about 2000 Euros, which to
me
> >is quite a bit for a 5 BHP difference.
> >
> >Of course, you do apparently get a "leaner-burning" engine and better
miles
> >per gallon. What do you guys think.. is it worth the extra money?
> >
> >Any insight appreciated.. cheers!
>
> 2000 Euros sounds like a hell of a big premium just for the FSI version
> of the 1.6, especially if it's only got an extra 5bhp.
>
> I'd check the economy figures carefully and try to estimate how much
> you'll actually save. Also, are you sure the FSI won't come with some
> extra options included in the price, to justify that 2000?
>
> I'm planning on getting an A3 myself, but it will be the diesel.
Thanks Toby. 2000 Euros is quite a bit for the difference in bhp and 6
gears. With the FSI, would I need to use ultra-low sulpher fuel, like Shell
Pura to gain the better fuel economy? Will have to calculate it up to see
if I'd be saving anything going with the FSI rather than standard 1.6.
...Ray
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09-07-2003, 12:29 PM
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Re: Audi A3.. 1.6 or 1.6 FSI..?
"Nils Rothe" <nils.rothe@gmx.de> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 06 Sep 2003 07:54:01 GMT, "Toby Groves" <news@iconia.org.uk>
> wrote:
>
> >In article <3f4f6953$1_1@127.0.0.1>, eko <eko@no_spam_k-chan.net> writes
> >>Hi,
> >>
> >>I've been thinking of getting a new 2003 Audi A3 1.6. I know there will
be
> >>a 1.6 FSI model going into production around October. The price
difference
> >>where I am (Ireland) between the two models is about 2000 Euros, which
to me
> >>is quite a bit for a 5 BHP difference.
> >>
> >>Of course, you do apparently get a "leaner-burning" engine and better
miles
> >>per gallon. What do you guys think.. is it worth the extra money?
> >>
> >>Any insight appreciated.. cheers!
> >
> >2000 Euros sounds like a hell of a big premium just for the FSI version
> >of the 1.6, especially if it's only got an extra 5bhp.
> >
> >I'd check the economy figures carefully and try to estimate how much
> >you'll actually save. Also, are you sure the FSI won't come with some
> >extra options included in the price, to justify that 2000?
> >
> >I'm planning on getting an A3 myself, but it will be the diesel.
>
> Don't forget about the cost of the insurance and also the taxes.
> Sometimes a car seems to be cheap and than...
Thanks Nils. I haven't check thoroughly with my insurance company just yet,
but will the FSI yield a better insurance premium because of it's fuel
economy?
Thanks.
...Ray
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> On Sat, 06 Sep 2003 07:54:01 GMT, "Toby Groves" <news@iconia.org.uk>
> wrote:
>
> >In article <3f4f6953$1_1@127.0.0.1>, eko <eko@no_spam_k-chan.net> writes
> >>Hi,
> >>
> >>I've been thinking of getting a new 2003 Audi A3 1.6. I know there will
be
> >>a 1.6 FSI model going into production around October. The price
difference
> >>where I am (Ireland) between the two models is about 2000 Euros, which
to me
> >>is quite a bit for a 5 BHP difference.
> >>
> >>Of course, you do apparently get a "leaner-burning" engine and better
miles
> >>per gallon. What do you guys think.. is it worth the extra money?
> >>
> >>Any insight appreciated.. cheers!
> >
> >2000 Euros sounds like a hell of a big premium just for the FSI version
> >of the 1.6, especially if it's only got an extra 5bhp.
> >
> >I'd check the economy figures carefully and try to estimate how much
> >you'll actually save. Also, are you sure the FSI won't come with some
> >extra options included in the price, to justify that 2000?
> >
> >I'm planning on getting an A3 myself, but it will be the diesel.
>
> Don't forget about the cost of the insurance and also the taxes.
> Sometimes a car seems to be cheap and than...
Thanks Nils. I haven't check thoroughly with my insurance company just yet,
but will the FSI yield a better insurance premium because of it's fuel
economy?
Thanks.
...Ray
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