A3 2.0 T FSI Sport DSG
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Re: A3 2.0 T FSI Sport DSG
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Neil Hamilton wrote:
> JP Roberts wrote:
>> Problems I've had before getting to see 150.000 km on the counter:
>>
>> .- Scratched windscreen because of faulty wipers.
>> .- Flawed windscreen replacement.
>> .- Had to replace faulty Throttle Body as it would not perform adaption.
>> .- Replace 3 wheel bearings.
>> .- Replace 2 Bose rear bass speakers.
>> .- Replace Bose CD changer with the wonderful Phatbox - I can't but
>> strongly recommend this.
>> .- Replace front lower suspension arms and steering tie rods.
>> .- Replace front shocks with Bilsteins.
>> .- Now I'm getting a brake light possibly indicating ABS control
>> module failure.
> Wow! That's a fair few problems.
In totality, it might look that way, but really it's not. The list is
made of up problems and things that, on the face of it, are changed
because of owner preference. The flawed windscreen replacement is
hardly a fault of the car rather the installer of the replacement
windscreen.
The replacement of 2 rear speakers is not a mechanical issue and I doubt
very much that 2 speakers would fail at the same time (in fact, I've
never come across a failed speaker in a car YET!), plus it won't stop
the car from running.
There really is only 3, potentially 4 (ABS) on that list, so it's not
nearly as bad as it first looks.
> I had intended to trade up just before
> the lease expires, so I should be safe. I did that with my last A3
> 2.0FSI after only owning it for a year! I will never want to own a car
> outright.
An interesting thought, but not one for me. If you constantly change
your car I can see the value in it, but if like me, you keep a car for
several years (usually around 5-6) then outright ownership is most
definitely the way to go imo.
Graham
Neil Hamilton wrote:
> JP Roberts wrote:
>> Problems I've had before getting to see 150.000 km on the counter:
>>
>> .- Scratched windscreen because of faulty wipers.
>> .- Flawed windscreen replacement.
>> .- Had to replace faulty Throttle Body as it would not perform adaption.
>> .- Replace 3 wheel bearings.
>> .- Replace 2 Bose rear bass speakers.
>> .- Replace Bose CD changer with the wonderful Phatbox - I can't but
>> strongly recommend this.
>> .- Replace front lower suspension arms and steering tie rods.
>> .- Replace front shocks with Bilsteins.
>> .- Now I'm getting a brake light possibly indicating ABS control
>> module failure.
> Wow! That's a fair few problems.
In totality, it might look that way, but really it's not. The list is
made of up problems and things that, on the face of it, are changed
because of owner preference. The flawed windscreen replacement is
hardly a fault of the car rather the installer of the replacement
windscreen.
The replacement of 2 rear speakers is not a mechanical issue and I doubt
very much that 2 speakers would fail at the same time (in fact, I've
never come across a failed speaker in a car YET!), plus it won't stop
the car from running.
There really is only 3, potentially 4 (ABS) on that list, so it's not
nearly as bad as it first looks.
> I had intended to trade up just before
> the lease expires, so I should be safe. I did that with my last A3
> 2.0FSI after only owning it for a year! I will never want to own a car
> outright.
An interesting thought, but not one for me. If you constantly change
your car I can see the value in it, but if like me, you keep a car for
several years (usually around 5-6) then outright ownership is most
definitely the way to go imo.
Graham
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Re: A3 2.0 T FSI Sport DSG
> In totality, it might look that way, but really it's not. The list is
> made of up problems and things that, on the face of it, are changed
> because of owner preference. The flawed windscreen replacement is hardly
> a fault of the car rather the installer of the replacement windscreen.
You're just as ignorant of everything as anyone can be. A flawed windscreen
is a windscreen that's deformed and it is of the uttermost importance to see
where you're driving. Nothing like owner preference. It's plain to see you
know nothing at all about cars. Maybe about marketing. You're talking
nonsense. Faulty wheelbearings or a Throttle Body that does not respond are
nearly as dangerous as a running the car on flat tyres.
> The replacement of 2 rear speakers is not a mechanical issue and I doubt
> very much that 2 speakers would fail at the same time (in fact, I've never
> come across a failed speaker in a car YET!), plus it won't stop the car
> from running.
The fact that you have not experienced this does not mean anything at all,
as any scientist will tell you. Science progresses not through denial but
through keeping an open mind. A loudspeaker is an electromagnetic mechanism,
and if it's sold under a Bose label - when it's in fact a Panasonic - it
should well last longer than 3 four years. The quality of the sound was
unbearable, and if I had wanted that I'd never have bought the Bose system,
don't you think? Again, total nonsense.
> There really is only 3, potentially 4 (ABS) on that list, so it's not
> nearly as bad as it first looks.
What the heck are you talking about here? Once more you know nothing about
this. The ABS system is made up of a hydraulic pump and a computer device
called a control module, then there are 4 (it might be 3 on a three-wheeler
but that's hardly the point here) sensors. The fault affects the control
module, and is some $1.500, if you're educated enough to conduct a search on
the internet.
> made of up problems and things that, on the face of it, are changed
> because of owner preference. The flawed windscreen replacement is hardly
> a fault of the car rather the installer of the replacement windscreen.
You're just as ignorant of everything as anyone can be. A flawed windscreen
is a windscreen that's deformed and it is of the uttermost importance to see
where you're driving. Nothing like owner preference. It's plain to see you
know nothing at all about cars. Maybe about marketing. You're talking
nonsense. Faulty wheelbearings or a Throttle Body that does not respond are
nearly as dangerous as a running the car on flat tyres.
> The replacement of 2 rear speakers is not a mechanical issue and I doubt
> very much that 2 speakers would fail at the same time (in fact, I've never
> come across a failed speaker in a car YET!), plus it won't stop the car
> from running.
The fact that you have not experienced this does not mean anything at all,
as any scientist will tell you. Science progresses not through denial but
through keeping an open mind. A loudspeaker is an electromagnetic mechanism,
and if it's sold under a Bose label - when it's in fact a Panasonic - it
should well last longer than 3 four years. The quality of the sound was
unbearable, and if I had wanted that I'd never have bought the Bose system,
don't you think? Again, total nonsense.
> There really is only 3, potentially 4 (ABS) on that list, so it's not
> nearly as bad as it first looks.
What the heck are you talking about here? Once more you know nothing about
this. The ABS system is made up of a hydraulic pump and a computer device
called a control module, then there are 4 (it might be 3 on a three-wheeler
but that's hardly the point here) sensors. The fault affects the control
module, and is some $1.500, if you're educated enough to conduct a search on
the internet.
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Re: A3 2.0 T FSI Sport DSG
> In totality, it might look that way, but really it's not. The list is
> made of up problems and things that, on the face of it, are changed
> because of owner preference. The flawed windscreen replacement is hardly
> a fault of the car rather the installer of the replacement windscreen.
You're just as ignorant of everything as anyone can be. A flawed windscreen
is a windscreen that's deformed and it is of the uttermost importance to see
where you're driving. Nothing like owner preference. It's plain to see you
know nothing at all about cars. Maybe about marketing. You're talking
nonsense. Faulty wheelbearings or a Throttle Body that does not respond are
nearly as dangerous as a running the car on flat tyres.
> The replacement of 2 rear speakers is not a mechanical issue and I doubt
> very much that 2 speakers would fail at the same time (in fact, I've never
> come across a failed speaker in a car YET!), plus it won't stop the car
> from running.
The fact that you have not experienced this does not mean anything at all,
as any scientist will tell you. Science progresses not through denial but
through keeping an open mind. A loudspeaker is an electromagnetic mechanism,
and if it's sold under a Bose label - when it's in fact a Panasonic - it
should well last longer than 3 four years. The quality of the sound was
unbearable, and if I had wanted that I'd never have bought the Bose system,
don't you think? Again, total nonsense.
> There really is only 3, potentially 4 (ABS) on that list, so it's not
> nearly as bad as it first looks.
What the heck are you talking about here? Once more you know nothing about
this. The ABS system is made up of a hydraulic pump and a computer device
called a control module, then there are 4 (it might be 3 on a three-wheeler
but that's hardly the point here) sensors. The fault affects the control
module, and is some $1.500, if you're educated enough to conduct a search on
the internet.
> made of up problems and things that, on the face of it, are changed
> because of owner preference. The flawed windscreen replacement is hardly
> a fault of the car rather the installer of the replacement windscreen.
You're just as ignorant of everything as anyone can be. A flawed windscreen
is a windscreen that's deformed and it is of the uttermost importance to see
where you're driving. Nothing like owner preference. It's plain to see you
know nothing at all about cars. Maybe about marketing. You're talking
nonsense. Faulty wheelbearings or a Throttle Body that does not respond are
nearly as dangerous as a running the car on flat tyres.
> The replacement of 2 rear speakers is not a mechanical issue and I doubt
> very much that 2 speakers would fail at the same time (in fact, I've never
> come across a failed speaker in a car YET!), plus it won't stop the car
> from running.
The fact that you have not experienced this does not mean anything at all,
as any scientist will tell you. Science progresses not through denial but
through keeping an open mind. A loudspeaker is an electromagnetic mechanism,
and if it's sold under a Bose label - when it's in fact a Panasonic - it
should well last longer than 3 four years. The quality of the sound was
unbearable, and if I had wanted that I'd never have bought the Bose system,
don't you think? Again, total nonsense.
> There really is only 3, potentially 4 (ABS) on that list, so it's not
> nearly as bad as it first looks.
What the heck are you talking about here? Once more you know nothing about
this. The ABS system is made up of a hydraulic pump and a computer device
called a control module, then there are 4 (it might be 3 on a three-wheeler
but that's hardly the point here) sensors. The fault affects the control
module, and is some $1.500, if you're educated enough to conduct a search on
the internet.
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Re: A3 2.0 T FSI Sport DSG
> In totality, it might look that way, but really it's not. The list is
> made of up problems and things that, on the face of it, are changed
> because of owner preference. The flawed windscreen replacement is hardly
> a fault of the car rather the installer of the replacement windscreen.
You're just as ignorant of everything as anyone can be. A flawed windscreen
is a windscreen that's deformed and it is of the uttermost importance to see
where you're driving. Nothing like owner preference. It's plain to see you
know nothing at all about cars. Maybe about marketing. You're talking
nonsense. Faulty wheelbearings or a Throttle Body that does not respond are
nearly as dangerous as a running the car on flat tyres.
> The replacement of 2 rear speakers is not a mechanical issue and I doubt
> very much that 2 speakers would fail at the same time (in fact, I've never
> come across a failed speaker in a car YET!), plus it won't stop the car
> from running.
The fact that you have not experienced this does not mean anything at all,
as any scientist will tell you. Science progresses not through denial but
through keeping an open mind. A loudspeaker is an electromagnetic mechanism,
and if it's sold under a Bose label - when it's in fact a Panasonic - it
should well last longer than 3 four years. The quality of the sound was
unbearable, and if I had wanted that I'd never have bought the Bose system,
don't you think? Again, total nonsense.
> There really is only 3, potentially 4 (ABS) on that list, so it's not
> nearly as bad as it first looks.
What the heck are you talking about here? Once more you know nothing about
this. The ABS system is made up of a hydraulic pump and a computer device
called a control module, then there are 4 (it might be 3 on a three-wheeler
but that's hardly the point here) sensors. The fault affects the control
module, and is some $1.500, if you're educated enough to conduct a search on
the internet.
> made of up problems and things that, on the face of it, are changed
> because of owner preference. The flawed windscreen replacement is hardly
> a fault of the car rather the installer of the replacement windscreen.
You're just as ignorant of everything as anyone can be. A flawed windscreen
is a windscreen that's deformed and it is of the uttermost importance to see
where you're driving. Nothing like owner preference. It's plain to see you
know nothing at all about cars. Maybe about marketing. You're talking
nonsense. Faulty wheelbearings or a Throttle Body that does not respond are
nearly as dangerous as a running the car on flat tyres.
> The replacement of 2 rear speakers is not a mechanical issue and I doubt
> very much that 2 speakers would fail at the same time (in fact, I've never
> come across a failed speaker in a car YET!), plus it won't stop the car
> from running.
The fact that you have not experienced this does not mean anything at all,
as any scientist will tell you. Science progresses not through denial but
through keeping an open mind. A loudspeaker is an electromagnetic mechanism,
and if it's sold under a Bose label - when it's in fact a Panasonic - it
should well last longer than 3 four years. The quality of the sound was
unbearable, and if I had wanted that I'd never have bought the Bose system,
don't you think? Again, total nonsense.
> There really is only 3, potentially 4 (ABS) on that list, so it's not
> nearly as bad as it first looks.
What the heck are you talking about here? Once more you know nothing about
this. The ABS system is made up of a hydraulic pump and a computer device
called a control module, then there are 4 (it might be 3 on a three-wheeler
but that's hardly the point here) sensors. The fault affects the control
module, and is some $1.500, if you're educated enough to conduct a search on
the internet.
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Re: A3 2.0 T FSI Sport DSG
>> Problems I've had before getting to see 150.000 km on the counter:
> Wheel bearings and suspension are wear items.
Yes, but if you read my full post, you'll realize that the suspension has
been really well looked after, so at 90,000 km, and 128.000 km they're not
in the normal wear wavelength, if you know what I mean. Take any car that's
half the price of this and you'll see some 180,000 before the wheelbearings
go, and possibly well over 200,000 before any problems with the suspension
(other than shocks) become noticeable by the driver.
> Can't really blame a faulty windscreen replacement on Audi
It was the windscreen itself that was distorting all views, not the
workmanship. The subsidiary that makes them is to blame.
> Why did you replace the CD changer was it broken or did you want a
> Phatbox?
It was totally broken, but now I'm glad it did. Again, these units are
Panasonic.
> Tie rods could be considered a wear item and the lower suspension arms are
> a known fault covered by a recall IIRC
Sorry, did I write lower? I meant upper arms. And no, they're not covered,
at least not here.
> I wouldn't say you've had a particularly expensive car.
That's subject to your opinion, but I think any car that is going to be
costing over 5% of its nominal value in some 7 years of ownership is not the
best example of realiability, and that's a very mild way of putting it.
> Wheel bearings and suspension are wear items.
Yes, but if you read my full post, you'll realize that the suspension has
been really well looked after, so at 90,000 km, and 128.000 km they're not
in the normal wear wavelength, if you know what I mean. Take any car that's
half the price of this and you'll see some 180,000 before the wheelbearings
go, and possibly well over 200,000 before any problems with the suspension
(other than shocks) become noticeable by the driver.
> Can't really blame a faulty windscreen replacement on Audi
It was the windscreen itself that was distorting all views, not the
workmanship. The subsidiary that makes them is to blame.
> Why did you replace the CD changer was it broken or did you want a
> Phatbox?
It was totally broken, but now I'm glad it did. Again, these units are
Panasonic.
> Tie rods could be considered a wear item and the lower suspension arms are
> a known fault covered by a recall IIRC
Sorry, did I write lower? I meant upper arms. And no, they're not covered,
at least not here.
> I wouldn't say you've had a particularly expensive car.
That's subject to your opinion, but I think any car that is going to be
costing over 5% of its nominal value in some 7 years of ownership is not the
best example of realiability, and that's a very mild way of putting it.
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Re: A3 2.0 T FSI Sport DSG
>> Problems I've had before getting to see 150.000 km on the counter:
> Wheel bearings and suspension are wear items.
Yes, but if you read my full post, you'll realize that the suspension has
been really well looked after, so at 90,000 km, and 128.000 km they're not
in the normal wear wavelength, if you know what I mean. Take any car that's
half the price of this and you'll see some 180,000 before the wheelbearings
go, and possibly well over 200,000 before any problems with the suspension
(other than shocks) become noticeable by the driver.
> Can't really blame a faulty windscreen replacement on Audi
It was the windscreen itself that was distorting all views, not the
workmanship. The subsidiary that makes them is to blame.
> Why did you replace the CD changer was it broken or did you want a
> Phatbox?
It was totally broken, but now I'm glad it did. Again, these units are
Panasonic.
> Tie rods could be considered a wear item and the lower suspension arms are
> a known fault covered by a recall IIRC
Sorry, did I write lower? I meant upper arms. And no, they're not covered,
at least not here.
> I wouldn't say you've had a particularly expensive car.
That's subject to your opinion, but I think any car that is going to be
costing over 5% of its nominal value in some 7 years of ownership is not the
best example of realiability, and that's a very mild way of putting it.
> Wheel bearings and suspension are wear items.
Yes, but if you read my full post, you'll realize that the suspension has
been really well looked after, so at 90,000 km, and 128.000 km they're not
in the normal wear wavelength, if you know what I mean. Take any car that's
half the price of this and you'll see some 180,000 before the wheelbearings
go, and possibly well over 200,000 before any problems with the suspension
(other than shocks) become noticeable by the driver.
> Can't really blame a faulty windscreen replacement on Audi
It was the windscreen itself that was distorting all views, not the
workmanship. The subsidiary that makes them is to blame.
> Why did you replace the CD changer was it broken or did you want a
> Phatbox?
It was totally broken, but now I'm glad it did. Again, these units are
Panasonic.
> Tie rods could be considered a wear item and the lower suspension arms are
> a known fault covered by a recall IIRC
Sorry, did I write lower? I meant upper arms. And no, they're not covered,
at least not here.
> I wouldn't say you've had a particularly expensive car.
That's subject to your opinion, but I think any car that is going to be
costing over 5% of its nominal value in some 7 years of ownership is not the
best example of realiability, and that's a very mild way of putting it.
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Re: A3 2.0 T FSI Sport DSG
>> Problems I've had before getting to see 150.000 km on the counter:
> Wheel bearings and suspension are wear items.
Yes, but if you read my full post, you'll realize that the suspension has
been really well looked after, so at 90,000 km, and 128.000 km they're not
in the normal wear wavelength, if you know what I mean. Take any car that's
half the price of this and you'll see some 180,000 before the wheelbearings
go, and possibly well over 200,000 before any problems with the suspension
(other than shocks) become noticeable by the driver.
> Can't really blame a faulty windscreen replacement on Audi
It was the windscreen itself that was distorting all views, not the
workmanship. The subsidiary that makes them is to blame.
> Why did you replace the CD changer was it broken or did you want a
> Phatbox?
It was totally broken, but now I'm glad it did. Again, these units are
Panasonic.
> Tie rods could be considered a wear item and the lower suspension arms are
> a known fault covered by a recall IIRC
Sorry, did I write lower? I meant upper arms. And no, they're not covered,
at least not here.
> I wouldn't say you've had a particularly expensive car.
That's subject to your opinion, but I think any car that is going to be
costing over 5% of its nominal value in some 7 years of ownership is not the
best example of realiability, and that's a very mild way of putting it.
> Wheel bearings and suspension are wear items.
Yes, but if you read my full post, you'll realize that the suspension has
been really well looked after, so at 90,000 km, and 128.000 km they're not
in the normal wear wavelength, if you know what I mean. Take any car that's
half the price of this and you'll see some 180,000 before the wheelbearings
go, and possibly well over 200,000 before any problems with the suspension
(other than shocks) become noticeable by the driver.
> Can't really blame a faulty windscreen replacement on Audi
It was the windscreen itself that was distorting all views, not the
workmanship. The subsidiary that makes them is to blame.
> Why did you replace the CD changer was it broken or did you want a
> Phatbox?
It was totally broken, but now I'm glad it did. Again, these units are
Panasonic.
> Tie rods could be considered a wear item and the lower suspension arms are
> a known fault covered by a recall IIRC
Sorry, did I write lower? I meant upper arms. And no, they're not covered,
at least not here.
> I wouldn't say you've had a particularly expensive car.
That's subject to your opinion, but I think any car that is going to be
costing over 5% of its nominal value in some 7 years of ownership is not the
best example of realiability, and that's a very mild way of putting it.
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Re: A3 2.0 T FSI Sport DSG
Neil Hamilton wrote:
>
> Wow! That's a fair few problems. I had intended to trade up just before
> the lease expires, so I should be safe. I did that with my last A3
> 2.0FSI after only owning it for a year! I will never want to own a car
> outright. Leasing and trading in before the final payment is due is, in
> my mind, the best way to own a car, even though you stand to lose a lot
> of cash.
Don't judge Audi quality by merely one usenet whiner. I currently have
three Audis, with a grand total of 450,000 miles, and they are by far
the most reliable cars I've ever owned. The cost of ownership has been
very low, and I attribute that to good cars that get
well-taken-care-of.
We'll all breathe a sigh of relief when JP gets rid of his clunker Audi
and moves on to some more reputable brand. One that doesn't have any
wear items to replace, and thus complain about.
E.P.
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Re: A3 2.0 T FSI Sport DSG
Neil Hamilton wrote:
>
> Wow! That's a fair few problems. I had intended to trade up just before
> the lease expires, so I should be safe. I did that with my last A3
> 2.0FSI after only owning it for a year! I will never want to own a car
> outright. Leasing and trading in before the final payment is due is, in
> my mind, the best way to own a car, even though you stand to lose a lot
> of cash.
Don't judge Audi quality by merely one usenet whiner. I currently have
three Audis, with a grand total of 450,000 miles, and they are by far
the most reliable cars I've ever owned. The cost of ownership has been
very low, and I attribute that to good cars that get
well-taken-care-of.
We'll all breathe a sigh of relief when JP gets rid of his clunker Audi
and moves on to some more reputable brand. One that doesn't have any
wear items to replace, and thus complain about.
E.P.
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Re: A3 2.0 T FSI Sport DSG
Neil Hamilton wrote:
>
> Wow! That's a fair few problems. I had intended to trade up just before
> the lease expires, so I should be safe. I did that with my last A3
> 2.0FSI after only owning it for a year! I will never want to own a car
> outright. Leasing and trading in before the final payment is due is, in
> my mind, the best way to own a car, even though you stand to lose a lot
> of cash.
Don't judge Audi quality by merely one usenet whiner. I currently have
three Audis, with a grand total of 450,000 miles, and they are by far
the most reliable cars I've ever owned. The cost of ownership has been
very low, and I attribute that to good cars that get
well-taken-care-of.
We'll all breathe a sigh of relief when JP gets rid of his clunker Audi
and moves on to some more reputable brand. One that doesn't have any
wear items to replace, and thus complain about.
E.P.