nealdc

My apologies - I just posted this elsewhere and it occurred to me it
would be better here...

Can anyone help me here...

I have an 80 16V 2.0 that has done 130k-ish miles and quite frankly
sounds like a diesel. Not only when it starts (I know about hydraulic
tappets needing to get up to pressure etc), but all the time.

Is it fixable with an oil/filter change? Does it sounds like it needs
new tappets? Or is the whole thing about to go up in smoke?

Timing belt needs changing (and is about to be done). Chain need
changing too maybe?

One out of many Daves

try to measure your oil pressure.
I had one 8V engine that had the hyd tappets clicking but it had a weak oil
pump also since the oil light would flash sometimes.
I changed that oil pump and the clicking noise left also.

And sometimes I find debris that clogs the strainers of oil pumps. This is
usually after either the engine overheats or the oil pan takes a hit. Both
oil pump scenarios had that plastic "windage tray" destroyed and the pieces
were clogging up the strainer thereby reducing oil flow and pressure.

Or maybe the oil is filty and the filter is clogged. So an oil change
shouldn't hurt if it has been awhile since the last one. I will assume that
there is enough oil in there! 8^)

--
later,
dave
(One out of many daves)


"nealdc" <neal_cumming@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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> My apologies - I just posted this elsewhere and it occurred to me it
> would be better here...
>
> Can anyone help me here...
>
> I have an 80 16V 2.0 that has done 130k-ish miles and quite frankly
> sounds like a diesel. Not only when it starts (I know about hydraulic
> tappets needing to get up to pressure etc), but all the time.
>
> Is it fixable with an oil/filter change? Does it sounds like it needs
> new tappets? Or is the whole thing about to go up in smoke?
>
> Timing belt needs changing (and is about to be done). Chain need
> changing too maybe?
>

One out of many Daves

try to measure your oil pressure.
I had one 8V engine that had the hyd tappets clicking but it had a weak oil
pump also since the oil light would flash sometimes.
I changed that oil pump and the clicking noise left also.

And sometimes I find debris that clogs the strainers of oil pumps. This is
usually after either the engine overheats or the oil pan takes a hit. Both
oil pump scenarios had that plastic "windage tray" destroyed and the pieces
were clogging up the strainer thereby reducing oil flow and pressure.

Or maybe the oil is filty and the filter is clogged. So an oil change
shouldn't hurt if it has been awhile since the last one. I will assume that
there is enough oil in there! 8^)

--
later,
dave
(One out of many daves)


"nealdc" <neal_cumming@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1147025067.702206.60820@j73g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> My apologies - I just posted this elsewhere and it occurred to me it
> would be better here...
>
> Can anyone help me here...
>
> I have an 80 16V 2.0 that has done 130k-ish miles and quite frankly
> sounds like a diesel. Not only when it starts (I know about hydraulic
> tappets needing to get up to pressure etc), but all the time.
>
> Is it fixable with an oil/filter change? Does it sounds like it needs
> new tappets? Or is the whole thing about to go up in smoke?
>
> Timing belt needs changing (and is about to be done). Chain need
> changing too maybe?
>

One out of many Daves

try to measure your oil pressure.
I had one 8V engine that had the hyd tappets clicking but it had a weak oil
pump also since the oil light would flash sometimes.
I changed that oil pump and the clicking noise left also.

And sometimes I find debris that clogs the strainers of oil pumps. This is
usually after either the engine overheats or the oil pan takes a hit. Both
oil pump scenarios had that plastic "windage tray" destroyed and the pieces
were clogging up the strainer thereby reducing oil flow and pressure.

Or maybe the oil is filty and the filter is clogged. So an oil change
shouldn't hurt if it has been awhile since the last one. I will assume that
there is enough oil in there! 8^)

--
later,
dave
(One out of many daves)


"nealdc" <neal_cumming@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1147025067.702206.60820@j73g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> My apologies - I just posted this elsewhere and it occurred to me it
> would be better here...
>
> Can anyone help me here...
>
> I have an 80 16V 2.0 that has done 130k-ish miles and quite frankly
> sounds like a diesel. Not only when it starts (I know about hydraulic
> tappets needing to get up to pressure etc), but all the time.
>
> Is it fixable with an oil/filter change? Does it sounds like it needs
> new tappets? Or is the whole thing about to go up in smoke?
>
> Timing belt needs changing (and is about to be done). Chain need
> changing too maybe?
>

nealdc

Thanks for the suggestions.

Actually, listening to it carefully, it sounds like there are a couple
of tappets in particular that are - err - tapping. As it doesn't sound
like it is all of them contributing to the din, I might focus on that.
Oil & filter change was not that long ago actually, and the pressure
looks to be ok.

I understand the tappets are not too hard to change. But I am trawling
the web to see if there is any specific information out there.

Thanks again for your help.

nealdc

Thanks for the suggestions.

Actually, listening to it carefully, it sounds like there are a couple
of tappets in particular that are - err - tapping. As it doesn't sound
like it is all of them contributing to the din, I might focus on that.
Oil & filter change was not that long ago actually, and the pressure
looks to be ok.

I understand the tappets are not too hard to change. But I am trawling
the web to see if there is any specific information out there.

Thanks again for your help.

nealdc

Thanks for the suggestions.

Actually, listening to it carefully, it sounds like there are a couple
of tappets in particular that are - err - tapping. As it doesn't sound
like it is all of them contributing to the din, I might focus on that.
Oil & filter change was not that long ago actually, and the pressure
looks to be ok.

I understand the tappets are not too hard to change. But I am trawling
the web to see if there is any specific information out there.

Thanks again for your help.

One out of many Daves

Well your engine has 16 of them at a price of maybe $12 each USD.
I usually recommend changing all of them once you get the camshafts out of
the way.
Of course you might be able to determine which ones are bad once you get the
valve cover off.

Then a new timing belt couldn't hurt!


"nealdc" <neal_cumming@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Thanks for the suggestions.
>
> Actually, listening to it carefully, it sounds like there are a couple
> of tappets in particular that are - err - tapping. As it doesn't sound
> like it is all of them contributing to the din, I might focus on that.
> Oil & filter change was not that long ago actually, and the pressure
> looks to be ok.
>
> I understand the tappets are not too hard to change. But I am trawling
> the web to see if there is any specific information out there.
>
> Thanks again for your help.
>
>

One out of many Daves

Well your engine has 16 of them at a price of maybe $12 each USD.
I usually recommend changing all of them once you get the camshafts out of
the way.
Of course you might be able to determine which ones are bad once you get the
valve cover off.

Then a new timing belt couldn't hurt!


"nealdc" <neal_cumming@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1147365751.899718.275740@j33g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> Thanks for the suggestions.
>
> Actually, listening to it carefully, it sounds like there are a couple
> of tappets in particular that are - err - tapping. As it doesn't sound
> like it is all of them contributing to the din, I might focus on that.
> Oil & filter change was not that long ago actually, and the pressure
> looks to be ok.
>
> I understand the tappets are not too hard to change. But I am trawling
> the web to see if there is any specific information out there.
>
> Thanks again for your help.
>
>

One out of many Daves

Well your engine has 16 of them at a price of maybe $12 each USD.
I usually recommend changing all of them once you get the camshafts out of
the way.
Of course you might be able to determine which ones are bad once you get the
valve cover off.

Then a new timing belt couldn't hurt!


"nealdc" <neal_cumming@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1147365751.899718.275740@j33g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> Thanks for the suggestions.
>
> Actually, listening to it carefully, it sounds like there are a couple
> of tappets in particular that are - err - tapping. As it doesn't sound
> like it is all of them contributing to the din, I might focus on that.
> Oil & filter change was not that long ago actually, and the pressure
> looks to be ok.
>
> I understand the tappets are not too hard to change. But I am trawling
> the web to see if there is any specific information out there.
>
> Thanks again for your help.
>
>