1.8T Oil issue -- cost
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1.8T Oil issue -- cost
I'm posting to both groups because I own two cars: a 2000 Audi A4 1.8T
Avant and a 2003 VW Passat 1.8T. I haven't seen much discussion on the
*cost* of the synthic oil issue.
I got both notices regarding the synthetic engine oil issue (one for
each auto) on the same day. However, it wasn't until my VW dealer did
the change over on the Passat that I began to realize the cost issues.
The oil changes using synthetic are going to be at least twice as much
as for a regular oil change. So, the oil maintenance costs have
effictively DOUBLED for the life of each vehicle.
Needless to say, I'm a little ticked. But, I'm not too car savvy (I'm
now seeing the error in having two vehicles with the same engine). Is
this just a problem I'm going to have to such up? If it's their
mistake, why do I have to undertake the additional costs?
Can anyone enlighten me? Or offer suggestions or remedies??
Thanks for any help,
Libby
Avant and a 2003 VW Passat 1.8T. I haven't seen much discussion on the
*cost* of the synthic oil issue.
I got both notices regarding the synthetic engine oil issue (one for
each auto) on the same day. However, it wasn't until my VW dealer did
the change over on the Passat that I began to realize the cost issues.
The oil changes using synthetic are going to be at least twice as much
as for a regular oil change. So, the oil maintenance costs have
effictively DOUBLED for the life of each vehicle.
Needless to say, I'm a little ticked. But, I'm not too car savvy (I'm
now seeing the error in having two vehicles with the same engine). Is
this just a problem I'm going to have to such up? If it's their
mistake, why do I have to undertake the additional costs?
Can anyone enlighten me? Or offer suggestions or remedies??
Thanks for any help,
Libby
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Re: 1.8T Oil issue -- cost
Libby wrote:
>
> Needless to say, I'm a little ticked. But, I'm not too car savvy (I'm
> now seeing the error in having two vehicles with the same engine). Is
> this just a problem I'm going to have to such up? If it's their
> mistake, why do I have to undertake the additional costs?
Why does the fact that the problem is being addressed *now* mean that
you shouldn't pay for it? Suppose the current oil requirements had been
in place when you bought the car. Would you have expected not to pay
for your oil changes then?
--
Mike Smith
>
> Needless to say, I'm a little ticked. But, I'm not too car savvy (I'm
> now seeing the error in having two vehicles with the same engine). Is
> this just a problem I'm going to have to such up? If it's their
> mistake, why do I have to undertake the additional costs?
Why does the fact that the problem is being addressed *now* mean that
you shouldn't pay for it? Suppose the current oil requirements had been
in place when you bought the car. Would you have expected not to pay
for your oil changes then?
--
Mike Smith
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Re: 1.8T Oil issue -- cost
Libby wrote:
>
> Needless to say, I'm a little ticked. But, I'm not too car savvy (I'm
> now seeing the error in having two vehicles with the same engine). Is
> this just a problem I'm going to have to such up? If it's their
> mistake, why do I have to undertake the additional costs?
Why does the fact that the problem is being addressed *now* mean that
you shouldn't pay for it? Suppose the current oil requirements had been
in place when you bought the car. Would you have expected not to pay
for your oil changes then?
--
Mike Smith
>
> Needless to say, I'm a little ticked. But, I'm not too car savvy (I'm
> now seeing the error in having two vehicles with the same engine). Is
> this just a problem I'm going to have to such up? If it's their
> mistake, why do I have to undertake the additional costs?
Why does the fact that the problem is being addressed *now* mean that
you shouldn't pay for it? Suppose the current oil requirements had been
in place when you bought the car. Would you have expected not to pay
for your oil changes then?
--
Mike Smith
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Re: 1.8T Oil issue -- cost
It's my understanding that synthetic oil doesn't need to be changed as
often.
When did the dealer tell you to come back for the next oil change?
"Libby" <libethl@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> I'm posting to both groups because I own two cars: a 2000 Audi A4 1.8T
> Avant and a 2003 VW Passat 1.8T. I haven't seen much discussion on the
> *cost* of the synthic oil issue.
>
> I got both notices regarding the synthetic engine oil issue (one for
> each auto) on the same day. However, it wasn't until my VW dealer did
> the change over on the Passat that I began to realize the cost issues.
> The oil changes using synthetic are going to be at least twice as much
> as for a regular oil change. So, the oil maintenance costs have
> effictively DOUBLED for the life of each vehicle.
>
> Needless to say, I'm a little ticked. But, I'm not too car savvy (I'm
> now seeing the error in having two vehicles with the same engine). Is
> this just a problem I'm going to have to such up? If it's their
> mistake, why do I have to undertake the additional costs?
>
> Can anyone enlighten me? Or offer suggestions or remedies??
>
> Thanks for any help,
> Libby
often.
When did the dealer tell you to come back for the next oil change?
"Libby" <libethl@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> I'm posting to both groups because I own two cars: a 2000 Audi A4 1.8T
> Avant and a 2003 VW Passat 1.8T. I haven't seen much discussion on the
> *cost* of the synthic oil issue.
>
> I got both notices regarding the synthetic engine oil issue (one for
> each auto) on the same day. However, it wasn't until my VW dealer did
> the change over on the Passat that I began to realize the cost issues.
> The oil changes using synthetic are going to be at least twice as much
> as for a regular oil change. So, the oil maintenance costs have
> effictively DOUBLED for the life of each vehicle.
>
> Needless to say, I'm a little ticked. But, I'm not too car savvy (I'm
> now seeing the error in having two vehicles with the same engine). Is
> this just a problem I'm going to have to such up? If it's their
> mistake, why do I have to undertake the additional costs?
>
> Can anyone enlighten me? Or offer suggestions or remedies??
>
> Thanks for any help,
> Libby
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Re: 1.8T Oil issue -- cost
It's my understanding that synthetic oil doesn't need to be changed as
often.
When did the dealer tell you to come back for the next oil change?
"Libby" <libethl@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:d72dc68b.0409061844.1fd10f28@posting.google.c om...
> I'm posting to both groups because I own two cars: a 2000 Audi A4 1.8T
> Avant and a 2003 VW Passat 1.8T. I haven't seen much discussion on the
> *cost* of the synthic oil issue.
>
> I got both notices regarding the synthetic engine oil issue (one for
> each auto) on the same day. However, it wasn't until my VW dealer did
> the change over on the Passat that I began to realize the cost issues.
> The oil changes using synthetic are going to be at least twice as much
> as for a regular oil change. So, the oil maintenance costs have
> effictively DOUBLED for the life of each vehicle.
>
> Needless to say, I'm a little ticked. But, I'm not too car savvy (I'm
> now seeing the error in having two vehicles with the same engine). Is
> this just a problem I'm going to have to such up? If it's their
> mistake, why do I have to undertake the additional costs?
>
> Can anyone enlighten me? Or offer suggestions or remedies??
>
> Thanks for any help,
> Libby
often.
When did the dealer tell you to come back for the next oil change?
"Libby" <libethl@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:d72dc68b.0409061844.1fd10f28@posting.google.c om...
> I'm posting to both groups because I own two cars: a 2000 Audi A4 1.8T
> Avant and a 2003 VW Passat 1.8T. I haven't seen much discussion on the
> *cost* of the synthic oil issue.
>
> I got both notices regarding the synthetic engine oil issue (one for
> each auto) on the same day. However, it wasn't until my VW dealer did
> the change over on the Passat that I began to realize the cost issues.
> The oil changes using synthetic are going to be at least twice as much
> as for a regular oil change. So, the oil maintenance costs have
> effictively DOUBLED for the life of each vehicle.
>
> Needless to say, I'm a little ticked. But, I'm not too car savvy (I'm
> now seeing the error in having two vehicles with the same engine). Is
> this just a problem I'm going to have to such up? If it's their
> mistake, why do I have to undertake the additional costs?
>
> Can anyone enlighten me? Or offer suggestions or remedies??
>
> Thanks for any help,
> Libby
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Re: 1.8T Oil issue -- cost
I have used synthetic oil in my cars since about 1985 or so. Having a
turbo means no additional oil expense to me. I have to do 3.5 oil
changes in the car and 1 oil change on the truck every year. I just
consider it a cost of driving. A lot of cars come from the factory
with synthetic oil so you know right off the bat the oil might be
more. It appears that VW has discovered that some folks have problems
with regular oil. The solution is syntheic oil which will probably
reduce the likelyhood of a few thousand dollars in engine repairs. I
guess some would consider that $17 additional synthetic oil per change
over 300,000 miles is an additional $1,000 which is cheaper than a
turbo or other parts that might suffer from regular oil.
libethl@yahoo.com (Libby) wrote:
>I'm posting to both groups because I own two cars: a 2000 Audi A4 1.8T
>Avant and a 2003 VW Passat 1.8T. I haven't seen much discussion on the
>*cost* of the synthic oil issue.
>
>I got both notices regarding the synthetic engine oil issue (one for
>each auto) on the same day. However, it wasn't until my VW dealer did
>the change over on the Passat that I began to realize the cost issues.
>The oil changes using synthetic are going to be at least twice as much
>as for a regular oil change. So, the oil maintenance costs have
>effictively DOUBLED for the life of each vehicle.
>
>Needless to say, I'm a little ticked. But, I'm not too car savvy (I'm
>now seeing the error in having two vehicles with the same engine). Is
>this just a problem I'm going to have to such up? If it's their
>mistake, why do I have to undertake the additional costs?
>
>Can anyone enlighten me? Or offer suggestions or remedies??
>
>Thanks for any help,
>Libby
Jim B.
turbo means no additional oil expense to me. I have to do 3.5 oil
changes in the car and 1 oil change on the truck every year. I just
consider it a cost of driving. A lot of cars come from the factory
with synthetic oil so you know right off the bat the oil might be
more. It appears that VW has discovered that some folks have problems
with regular oil. The solution is syntheic oil which will probably
reduce the likelyhood of a few thousand dollars in engine repairs. I
guess some would consider that $17 additional synthetic oil per change
over 300,000 miles is an additional $1,000 which is cheaper than a
turbo or other parts that might suffer from regular oil.
libethl@yahoo.com (Libby) wrote:
>I'm posting to both groups because I own two cars: a 2000 Audi A4 1.8T
>Avant and a 2003 VW Passat 1.8T. I haven't seen much discussion on the
>*cost* of the synthic oil issue.
>
>I got both notices regarding the synthetic engine oil issue (one for
>each auto) on the same day. However, it wasn't until my VW dealer did
>the change over on the Passat that I began to realize the cost issues.
>The oil changes using synthetic are going to be at least twice as much
>as for a regular oil change. So, the oil maintenance costs have
>effictively DOUBLED for the life of each vehicle.
>
>Needless to say, I'm a little ticked. But, I'm not too car savvy (I'm
>now seeing the error in having two vehicles with the same engine). Is
>this just a problem I'm going to have to such up? If it's their
>mistake, why do I have to undertake the additional costs?
>
>Can anyone enlighten me? Or offer suggestions or remedies??
>
>Thanks for any help,
>Libby
Jim B.
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Re: 1.8T Oil issue -- cost
I have used synthetic oil in my cars since about 1985 or so. Having a
turbo means no additional oil expense to me. I have to do 3.5 oil
changes in the car and 1 oil change on the truck every year. I just
consider it a cost of driving. A lot of cars come from the factory
with synthetic oil so you know right off the bat the oil might be
more. It appears that VW has discovered that some folks have problems
with regular oil. The solution is syntheic oil which will probably
reduce the likelyhood of a few thousand dollars in engine repairs. I
guess some would consider that $17 additional synthetic oil per change
over 300,000 miles is an additional $1,000 which is cheaper than a
turbo or other parts that might suffer from regular oil.
libethl@yahoo.com (Libby) wrote:
>I'm posting to both groups because I own two cars: a 2000 Audi A4 1.8T
>Avant and a 2003 VW Passat 1.8T. I haven't seen much discussion on the
>*cost* of the synthic oil issue.
>
>I got both notices regarding the synthetic engine oil issue (one for
>each auto) on the same day. However, it wasn't until my VW dealer did
>the change over on the Passat that I began to realize the cost issues.
>The oil changes using synthetic are going to be at least twice as much
>as for a regular oil change. So, the oil maintenance costs have
>effictively DOUBLED for the life of each vehicle.
>
>Needless to say, I'm a little ticked. But, I'm not too car savvy (I'm
>now seeing the error in having two vehicles with the same engine). Is
>this just a problem I'm going to have to such up? If it's their
>mistake, why do I have to undertake the additional costs?
>
>Can anyone enlighten me? Or offer suggestions or remedies??
>
>Thanks for any help,
>Libby
Jim B.
turbo means no additional oil expense to me. I have to do 3.5 oil
changes in the car and 1 oil change on the truck every year. I just
consider it a cost of driving. A lot of cars come from the factory
with synthetic oil so you know right off the bat the oil might be
more. It appears that VW has discovered that some folks have problems
with regular oil. The solution is syntheic oil which will probably
reduce the likelyhood of a few thousand dollars in engine repairs. I
guess some would consider that $17 additional synthetic oil per change
over 300,000 miles is an additional $1,000 which is cheaper than a
turbo or other parts that might suffer from regular oil.
libethl@yahoo.com (Libby) wrote:
>I'm posting to both groups because I own two cars: a 2000 Audi A4 1.8T
>Avant and a 2003 VW Passat 1.8T. I haven't seen much discussion on the
>*cost* of the synthic oil issue.
>
>I got both notices regarding the synthetic engine oil issue (one for
>each auto) on the same day. However, it wasn't until my VW dealer did
>the change over on the Passat that I began to realize the cost issues.
>The oil changes using synthetic are going to be at least twice as much
>as for a regular oil change. So, the oil maintenance costs have
>effictively DOUBLED for the life of each vehicle.
>
>Needless to say, I'm a little ticked. But, I'm not too car savvy (I'm
>now seeing the error in having two vehicles with the same engine). Is
>this just a problem I'm going to have to such up? If it's their
>mistake, why do I have to undertake the additional costs?
>
>Can anyone enlighten me? Or offer suggestions or remedies??
>
>Thanks for any help,
>Libby
Jim B.
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Re: 1.8T Oil issue -- cost
Mike Smith wrote:
> Libby wrote:
>
>>
>> Needless to say, I'm a little ticked. But, I'm not too car savvy (I'm
>> now seeing the error in having two vehicles with the same engine). Is
>> this just a problem I'm going to have to such up? If it's their
>> mistake, why do I have to undertake the additional costs?
>
>
> Why does the fact that the problem is being addressed *now* mean that
> you shouldn't pay for it? Suppose the current oil requirements had been
> in place when you bought the car. Would you have expected not to pay
> for your oil changes then?
>
> --
> Mike Smith
Is this a new notice that VW recently issued?? Our New Beetle is a 1.8T
and I haven't gotten a notice from VW regarding synthetic oil...granted,
I've used Mobil 1 since the 8K service...but I'm just being nosy.
> Libby wrote:
>
>>
>> Needless to say, I'm a little ticked. But, I'm not too car savvy (I'm
>> now seeing the error in having two vehicles with the same engine). Is
>> this just a problem I'm going to have to such up? If it's their
>> mistake, why do I have to undertake the additional costs?
>
>
> Why does the fact that the problem is being addressed *now* mean that
> you shouldn't pay for it? Suppose the current oil requirements had been
> in place when you bought the car. Would you have expected not to pay
> for your oil changes then?
>
> --
> Mike Smith
Is this a new notice that VW recently issued?? Our New Beetle is a 1.8T
and I haven't gotten a notice from VW regarding synthetic oil...granted,
I've used Mobil 1 since the 8K service...but I'm just being nosy.
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Mike Smith wrote:
> Libby wrote:
>
>>
>> Needless to say, I'm a little ticked. But, I'm not too car savvy (I'm
>> now seeing the error in having two vehicles with the same engine). Is
>> this just a problem I'm going to have to such up? If it's their
>> mistake, why do I have to undertake the additional costs?
>
>
> Why does the fact that the problem is being addressed *now* mean that
> you shouldn't pay for it? Suppose the current oil requirements had been
> in place when you bought the car. Would you have expected not to pay
> for your oil changes then?
>
> --
> Mike Smith
Is this a new notice that VW recently issued?? Our New Beetle is a 1.8T
and I haven't gotten a notice from VW regarding synthetic oil...granted,
I've used Mobil 1 since the 8K service...but I'm just being nosy.
> Libby wrote:
>
>>
>> Needless to say, I'm a little ticked. But, I'm not too car savvy (I'm
>> now seeing the error in having two vehicles with the same engine). Is
>> this just a problem I'm going to have to such up? If it's their
>> mistake, why do I have to undertake the additional costs?
>
>
> Why does the fact that the problem is being addressed *now* mean that
> you shouldn't pay for it? Suppose the current oil requirements had been
> in place when you bought the car. Would you have expected not to pay
> for your oil changes then?
>
> --
> Mike Smith
Is this a new notice that VW recently issued?? Our New Beetle is a 1.8T
and I haven't gotten a notice from VW regarding synthetic oil...granted,
I've used Mobil 1 since the 8K service...but I'm just being nosy.
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Re: 1.8T Oil issue -- cost
Let's see at our shop the 1.8t oil change with regular oil is $35 and with
VW's synthetic it's $50. The VW oil has a list price of $5 per quart so your
dealer shouldn't be charging any more than that, if they are bring your own
oil in or shop elsewhere. I bet most of us waste more money on beer each
year.
"Libby" <libethl@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:d72dc68b.0409061844.1fd10f28@posting.google.c om...
> I'm posting to both groups because I own two cars: a 2000 Audi A4 1.8T
> Avant and a 2003 VW Passat 1.8T. I haven't seen much discussion on the
> *cost* of the synthic oil issue.
>
> I got both notices regarding the synthetic engine oil issue (one for
> each auto) on the same day. However, it wasn't until my VW dealer did
> the change over on the Passat that I began to realize the cost issues.
> The oil changes using synthetic are going to be at least twice as much
> as for a regular oil change. So, the oil maintenance costs have
> effictively DOUBLED for the life of each vehicle.
>
> Needless to say, I'm a little ticked. But, I'm not too car savvy (I'm
> now seeing the error in having two vehicles with the same engine). Is
> this just a problem I'm going to have to such up? If it's their
> mistake, why do I have to undertake the additional costs?
>
> Can anyone enlighten me? Or offer suggestions or remedies??
>
> Thanks for any help,
> Libby
VW's synthetic it's $50. The VW oil has a list price of $5 per quart so your
dealer shouldn't be charging any more than that, if they are bring your own
oil in or shop elsewhere. I bet most of us waste more money on beer each
year.
"Libby" <libethl@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:d72dc68b.0409061844.1fd10f28@posting.google.c om...
> I'm posting to both groups because I own two cars: a 2000 Audi A4 1.8T
> Avant and a 2003 VW Passat 1.8T. I haven't seen much discussion on the
> *cost* of the synthic oil issue.
>
> I got both notices regarding the synthetic engine oil issue (one for
> each auto) on the same day. However, it wasn't until my VW dealer did
> the change over on the Passat that I began to realize the cost issues.
> The oil changes using synthetic are going to be at least twice as much
> as for a regular oil change. So, the oil maintenance costs have
> effictively DOUBLED for the life of each vehicle.
>
> Needless to say, I'm a little ticked. But, I'm not too car savvy (I'm
> now seeing the error in having two vehicles with the same engine). Is
> this just a problem I'm going to have to such up? If it's their
> mistake, why do I have to undertake the additional costs?
>
> Can anyone enlighten me? Or offer suggestions or remedies??
>
> Thanks for any help,
> Libby