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Hello, does anyone have the torque specs for a 2003 audi a4 3.0 upper and lower control arms? I had to replace the bushings so i need specs and currently dont have money for Bentleys manuel. I would really appreciate it if someone posted the torque specs.
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Hi!
Attached is an exploded diagram of the front suspension system for a 2004 A4 3.0L V6.
Can you let me know the part reference number from the diagram and I will look up the torque specs in the workshop manual.
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Originally Posted by johnny quattro
Hi!
Attached is an exploded diagram of the front suspension system for a 2004 A4 3.0L V6.
Can you let me know the part reference number from the diagram and I will look up the torque specs in the workshop manual.
Well i took all that off so im going to need all of them if its not too much to ask.
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Originally Posted by gurvir44
Well i took all that off so im going to need all of them if its not too much to ask.
Torque specs as referencing the numbered parts on the diagram posted as follows:
1: 75Nm
5: 7Nm
7: 45Nm
8: 40Nm
12: 70Nm and turn 180 degrees further
14: 110Nm
17: 10Nm
20: 90Nm
22: 55Nm
23: 110Nm and turn 90 degrees further
24 & 26: 40Nm and turn 90 degrees further
28: 70Nm and turn 180 degrees further
29: 75Nm
33: Pretighten to 15Nm, then M8=40Nm and M10=70Nm
37: 50Nm and turn 90 degrees further
38: 50Nm

These values are straight from the Audi tech repair manual and I hope this helps?
Let me know if you need any other info.
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Haha thanks alot. Very helpful!!! Now i got another dilemma >
I ordered control arms from a website for my 2003 audi a4 3.0. There wrong, nothing fits. Now i need to get the next order right, i dont know if they missed up or i did. I have some pictures of my current ones if that helps. I need to make sure there right, and it would help if someone here had some previous experience to help me buy the right ones. The part that didnt fit was the spring on to the front lower control arm and all of the tapered shaft at the ball joint were different sizes
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Haha thanks alot. Very helpful!!! Now i got another dilemma >
I ordered control arms from a website for my 2003 audi a4 3.0. There wrong, nothing fits. Now i need to get the next order right, i dont know if they missed up or i did. I have some pictures of my current ones if that helps. I need to make sure there right, and it would help if someone here had some previous experience to help me buy the right ones. The part that didnt fit was the spring on to the front lower control arm and all of the tapered shaft at the ball joint were different sizes
Sorry, wish I could help you more but this is not my area of expertise.

Can anyone else viewing help?
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Remember to load your suspension - a hydraulic jack works well - before you torque any of the bolts!

ECS Tuning and VAG Cat are good sites to look up part numbers if you don't have access to the ETKA parts catalogue. ECS has pretty good prices, and quite a vast selection of parts as well.
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Remember to load your suspension - a hydraulic jack works well - before you torque any of the bolts!

ECS Tuning and VAG Cat are good sites to look up part numbers if you don't have access to the ETKA parts catalogue. ECS has pretty good prices, and quite a vast selection of parts as well.
Thanks, just ordered from ESC, hope there the right ones (fingers crossed) Now just gotta get at that dam 3rd middle bolt in the drive shaft. So hard!
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Johnny,

Would you have the same diagram and torque specs for a 1999 audi a4 B5 2.8?

I could really use the help!

Thanks,
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Originally Posted by 99A4B528
Johnny,

Would you have the same diagram and torque specs for a 1999 audi a4 B5 2.8?

I could really use the help!

Thanks,
Steve
Hey Steve,
Usual disclaimer! Attached diagram and text below.
I hope this helps?

Front axle component layout
Layout of components

1. Hexagon bolt, 75 Nm
2. Washer
3. Hexagon bolt
o ◆ Note different bolt lengths
o ‒ With steel mounting bracket: M10 x 60
o ‒ With aluminium mounting bracket: M10 x 62
o ◆ Always replace after removing
4. Rear upper link
o ◆ Heed different versions: With and without buffer stop =>Fig.1 and Fig.2
o ◆ Replacing bush => Page 40-137
5. Hexagon bolt, 5 Nm
o ◆ Screw on until contact is made
6. Bolt
7. Self-locking nut, 50 Nm
o ◆ Always replace after removing
o ◆ 42 Nm for steel wheel bearing housing
o ◆ 50 Nm for aluminium wheel bearing housing
8. Hexagon bolt M 10 x 100
o ◆ If hexagon bolt cannot be removed from wheel bearing housing -Item 40-113
9. Self-locking nut, 40 Nm
o ◆ Always replace after removing
10. Front upper link
o ◆ Can only be removed together with mounting bracket
o ◆ Removing and installing mounting bracket => Page 40-125
o ◆ Replacing bush => Page 40-125
11. Suspension strut
o ◆ Note different spring/shock absorber versions => Page 40-77, vehicle data sticker
o ◆ Removing and installing=>Page 40-67
o ◆ Servicing => Page 40-74
12. Hexagon bolt
M 12 x 1.5 x 120
o ◆ Always replace after removing
13. Lower guide link
o If leaking, hydro-bush must be replaced => Page 40-167
o ◆ Assignment
14. Self-locking nut
o ◆ Always replace after removing
o ◆ Assignment
o ◆ Flange nut, M12 x 1.5, for wheel bearing housing with no bushing (old version)
Tightening torque: 100 Nm
o ◆ Combi nut, M12 x 1.5, for wheel bearing housing with bushing (new version)
Tightening torque: 125 Nm
o ◆ Vehicles with wheel bearing housings with no bushings and old type track control links -Item 25- are to be fitted with flange nuts
o ◆ On installing wheel bearing housings with bushings, flange nuts are to be replaced with combi nuts
15. Wheel bearing housing/wheel bearing housing with bolted wheel bearing
o ◆ Assignment
o ◆ Different wheel bearing housing versions (with and without bushings) => Page 40-85
o ◆ Removing and installing => Page 40-85
o ◆ Servicing wheel bearing housing => Page 40-95
o ◆ Servicing wheel bearing housing with bolted bearing => Page 40-113
o ◆ For vehicles with headlight range control, heed notes on removal and installation => Page 40-22
16. Splash plate
17. Hexagon bolt
o ◆ Always replace after removing
o Vehicle must be standing on ground when tightening bolt
o Tightening torques:
o M14 bolt:
o ◆ 115 Nm + further 180° turn
o M16 bolt:
o ◆ 190 Nm + further 180° turn
18. Hexagon socket-head bolt, 10 Nm
19. Self-locking nut
o ◆ Always replace after removing
o ◆ Assignment
o ◆ Flange nut, M12 x 1.5, for wheel bearing housing with no bushing (old version)
Tightening torque: 100 Nm
o ◆ Combi nut, M12 x 1.5, for wheel bearing housing with bushing (new version)
Tightening torque: 125 Nm
o ◆ Vehicles with wheel bearing housings with no bushings and old type track control links -Item 25- are to be fitted with flange nuts
o ◆ On installing wheel bearing housings with bushings, flange nuts are to be replaced with combi nuts
20. Hexagon bolt M 12 x 1.5 x 85
Note:
On vehicles as of the following chassis numbers, the suspension strut bolted joint was re-positioned, i.e. bolt head faces in direction of travel and nut -Item 21- is located between track control link and guide link
-Items 25 and 13-:
• ◆ 8D1A 146 169 (Model Year 2001)
• ◆ 8D2A 000 512 (Model Year 2002)
• ◆ 8D1N 905 194 (RS4)
21. Self-locking nut, 90 Nm
o ◆ Always replace after removing
22. Connecting link
o ◆ Note modified connecting links and tightening torques => Page 40-1
o Arrow on connecting link points in direction of travel
23. Self-locking hexagon nut
o ◆ 40 Nm + further 90° turn
o ◆ Always replace after removing
o ◆ Underside of nut is ribbed
o Make exclusive use of this special nut as replacement part
24. Hexagon bolt M 12 x 1.5 x 100
o ◆ Always replace after removing
25. Track control link
o ◆ Assignment
o ◆ Different track control link versions (for wheel bearing housings with and without bushings)=> Page 40-154
o ◆ Servicing => Page 40-159
◆ For vehicles with headlight range control, heed notes on sender removal and installation => Page 40-22
26. Clip
o ◆ Always replace
o ◆ Inserted in track control link
27. Hexagon bolt, 75 Nm
o ◆ M10 x 70
o ◆ Always replace after removing
28. Hexagon bolt M 12 x 1.5 x 110
o ◆ 110 Nm + further 90° turn
o ◆ Always replace after removing
29. Subframe
o ◆ For vehicles with headlight range control, heed notes on sender removal and installation => Page 40-22
o ◆ Removing and installing => Page 40-139
o ◆ Servicing => Page 40-148
30. Self-locking nut, 100 Nm
o ◆ Note modified connecting links and tightening torques => Page 40-19
o ◆ Underside of nut is ribbed
o ◆ Always replace after removing
o Make exclusive use of this special nut as replacement part
31. Hexagon bolt
o ◆ M8 x 25
o ◆ Tightening torques:
o ‒ Non-ribbed bolt: 30 Nm => Fig.3
o ‒ Ribbed bolt: 75 Nm => Fig.3
32. Subframe support
33. Self-locking nut
o ◆ 80 Nm + further 90° turn
o ◆ Always replace after removing
34. Self-locking nut
o ◆ 90 Nm + further 90° turn
o ◆ Always replace after removing
35. Multi-point socket head bolt
o Tightening torques:
o Bolt M8 x 48: 40 Nm
o Bolt M10 x 48: 80 Nm
36. Packing plate
37. Drive shaft
o ◆ Removing and installing=>Page 40-27
o ◆ Servicing => Page 40-30
38. Drive shaft with triple roller joint
o ◆ Servicing => Page 40-47
39. Twelve-point hexagon socket-head bolt, 80 Nm
o ◆ For vehicles with triple roller joint
o ◆ M10 x 20
40. Hexagon bolt
o ◆ Note different bolt lengths
o ‒ With steel mounting bracket: M10 x 60
o ‒ With aluminium mounting bracket: M10 x 62
o ◆ Always replace after removing
41. Mounting bracket
o ◆ Removing and installing => Page 40-125
o ◆ Aluminium mounting brackets were introduced as of MY 98
o ◆ Heed correspondingly amended wheel alignment specifications
=>Pages 44-23
◆ Combination of different types (aluminium/steel mounting brackets) is not permitted
42. Self-locking nut
o ◆ 50 Nm + further 90° turn
o ◆ Always replace after removing
43. Self-locking flange nut, 20 Nm
o ◆ Always replace after removing
Stop plates were introduced as end stops as of chassis number -8DTA 321 912- for vehicles with sports and heavy-duty running gear.
Note: Stop plates are not to be removed.
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