Gymbeau

Hi again. Been a while!
Anyway, I was at one of my local Audi dealers yesterday; took my B6 A4 Avant in 'cause it was idling a bit rough. It's due for new plugs (last changed around 55K, now have 126K). They supposedly gave the car the once over and agreed that the plugs need replacing (but wouldn't tell me a price) but also said the timing belt should be checked, that the "cam shafts read -5.00 degrees and -11.00 degrees, which they said is a high reading. They recommend the camshaft timing should be checked (the belt was replaced within the past 5000 or so) and, if necessary, adjusted.

They also said it would be nearly as expensive as replacing the belt - something like $1200.

My question is, does their cam gobbledygook make sense or are they just trying to sell me work? And if it does make sense, how soon should I get it done?

I ask because we're taking a trip from Calgary to Seattle at the end of next week and I'd rather not be left on the roadside. I'm planning to get the plugs done, but can that timing thingy be delayed - and am I better going to one of the good service dealers than taking it back to Audi?

Thanks!
Jim

Tim$2

Hey Jim. I have no idea if this is BS or not but it sounds like you could use a second opinion. In the absence of someone who knows what they are talking about posting you might try calling an independent shop and relating the story to them too. The people I trust the most to give me good info are Paul at Tony's Auto Service and the folks at Tunedub. Both are shops with good reputations and reasonable pricing but the issue may be your timeline as they are usually quite busy. Couldn't hurt to call around and see what they say.

Gymbeau

Hi, Tim$2. Thanks for getting back to me; I'll give those guys a call and see what I can get done fairly quickly. Thanks for directing me toward Tony's and Tunedub, too. The belt was changed at that place on 14th street SW with the big VW spider outside (forget the name); hopefully they have a good reputation though, since you didn't mention them, I now have my doubts.

cheers
Jim

Daonhathai

If the belt was changed I'm sure all the timing and cam adjustments would've been done at the same time to so I think Audi is full of .

As for spark plugs, why don't you do them yourself? It's near impossible to f-ck up.

Gymbeau

Thanks! I contacted one of the repair shops referred to above and they'd never heard of the timing situation I quoted, either, though he admitted it was a possibility that they'd have different diagnostic equipment. But the fact he'd never heard of such a scenario makes me I think it looks like the dealer might be trying to pull a fast one as well. I'd do the plugs myself, but am far too oafish, and lack the tools. I really should learn, though!

Cheers,
Jim

Tim$2

Well just because I didn't mention them doesn't mean they don't do good work. I've never used that shop before so I couldn't say one way or the other.

Gymbeau

Fair enough; I didn't mean to slag them and have no reason to think they aren't great (- though the guy I bought the A4 from said he wasn't pleased - but that was more their customer relations than the actual work, IIRC.

I'm taking it into Tony's next week. They were quick to return my phone call, and that impressed me. Maybe I'll try Tunedub when I have a bigger time window. Wish I could find a good guy in the North, though.

Thanks for your advice! Much appreciated!
cheers,
Jim

Tim$2

I think you'll be satisfied going to Tony's. Their shop may not look like much but they do good work and they don't try to upsell you. If they say it needs to be done then it needs to be done. Hopefully you get away with just doing the plugs and wires and the timing turns out to be fine.

Gymbeau

Thanks for all your advice! Much appreciated. What wires are you talking about having done? Are they the ones that attach to the plugs, and is that normally part of the plug-changing process or something I need to remind Tony's about?

cheers
Jim

Tim$2

AH! My mistake Jim. Was just thinking that when you do new plugs on a car most times you would replace the ignition wires at the same time but thinking about it, the 1.8T has the individual ignition coils right near the plug so there isn't any ignition wires to worry about I don't think. Disregard.