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Old 04-14-2008, 07:59 AM
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Ok, i have a 2004 A4 quattro 1.8T

There is a set of 19s i want to get but they are 31lbs each....somewhat heavy....but i have nothing to base this on. Does anyone know the stock wheel weights? of either the 16s or 17s??

I dont want to do any damage to the quattro system with the extra weight causeing strain. Or does anyone know the max weight suggested?
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Whoa !! 31 lbs is heavier than stock fo sho. My 18's were approx 28 lbs. Here's a link for you to determine wheel weights: WHEELWEIGHTS.NET

From recent experience, I'd strongly suggest trying to get lighter wheels ... my 19's are 10 lbs lighter than my stockers (incl. tires) and the difference in drive (acceleration, handling and ride) is quite noticeable.
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My 19's are 19 or 18lbs but they really lightweight.
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Originally Posted by MAlby7
My 19's are 19 or 18lbs but they really lightweight.

And they're hot !!
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The extra mass doesn't hurt the drive train per se. It'd only impact performance. Keep in mind also that it's not just mass that's hampering performance, but also mass that's farther from the centre of the rotating part: rotational inertia, the physical quantity analogous to mass in describing rotations as opposed to linear motion, scales as radius squared while it scales linearly with mass, so the amount of torque required to accelerate a heavier wheel that's larger in diameter is much larger than an equally heavy wheel that's smaller.
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I've read that an increase of 1 lb of wheel/tire weight equates to 8 lbs of rotational mass. Dunno if this is true ...
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Originally Posted by akula-ssh
The extra mass doesn't hurt the drive train per se. It'd only impact performance. Keep in mind also that it's not just mass that's hampering performance, but also mass that's farther from the centre of the rotating part: rotational inertia, the physical quantity analogous to mass in describing rotations as opposed to linear motion, scales as radius squared while it scales linearly with mass, so the amount of torque required to accelerate a heavier wheel that's larger in diameter is much larger than an equally heavy wheel that's smaller.
Well said... An Engineer I'm assuming?
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Originally Posted by akula-ssh
The extra mass doesn't hurt the drive train per se. It'd only impact performance. Keep in mind also that it's not just mass that's hampering performance, but also mass that's farther from the centre of the rotating part: rotational inertia, the physical quantity analogous to mass in describing rotations as opposed to linear motion, scales as radius squared while it scales linearly with mass, so the amount of torque required to accelerate a heavier wheel that's larger in diameter is much larger than an equally heavy wheel that's smaller.
Geeze, if your going to call me all sorts of names at least say Sir.

haha. Thanks for the explination.
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Default Re: Buying new rims...weight?

To answer your first question:

Audi A4 5-spoke Cast 16x7 20.0
Audi A4 7-spoke Cast 16x7 20.6
Audi A8 Forged 17x8 21.0
Audi A8 9-spoke Cast 20x8.5 28.6
Audi S4 Avus Cast 17x7.5 28.0
Audi S8 Avus Cast 18x8 27.2
Audi TT Cast 16x7 18.5
Audi TT Forged 17x7.5 21.5
Audi TT Cast 17x7.5 29.0

The last number there is the weight in pounds. Can't gaurantee its all true, I just found it on some website, but it seems fair.

I'm currently looking into buying some 18's for mine, going to try to look for something around the 20-22 pound range, less would be nice but I think I might be paying more then I want to then.
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[QUOTE=rusty_67;65550] ... Can't gaurantee its all true, I just found it on some website, but it seems fair.
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You mean the website I provided in my first post ?

Any of the wheels I had weighed were the same as what that website stated.

Good luck with finding wheels - patience is a virtue and sometimes paying a few bucks more than planned allows you to get what you want (ie: lighter wheels).
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